destroying the papacy

**Oaty** · 11-06-2008, 02:46

I'm playing my first campaign as a non catholic(russia) and was wondering what happens when you take Rome. Does a horde show up or does he reemerge or basically nothing.

**Lancome** · 11-06-2008, 04:07

Its the same... only dif is that you dont have the pope to boss you around.

**LadyAnn** · 11-06-2008, 06:03

Lancome, Russia is Orthodox, it ignored the Pope all the time. I believe the Horde still show up regardless.

Annie

**Monsieur Alphonse** · 11-06-2008, 13:03

No horde only a lonely pope (general and bodyguard). I play the Moors in my current campaign. I first had an alliance with the pope and with almost every one. I was very popular until I became to powerful and had Italians as my neighbors. You simply can't trust those pizza salesmen

. I am now full controllinf all of Italy and the pope has no more cities. I have a special hunting party ready to kill him. He first showed up near Tunis a couple of times which gave me free adoptions (generals)every time I killed him. He now hangs around near Rome and I kill him occasionally to train my camel gunners

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**Oaty** · 11-07-2008, 17:40

Thank you Monsieur Alphonse. Thats the answer I was looking for. So it takes a catholic faction or the human player to gift him a city to have land back. I was hoping it wasnt likle medieval 1 where he came back with stacks of armies.

**Gaiseric** · 11-18-2008, 21:55

Just tried this, thought that I would post it here:

I Played as Sicily in Lands to Conquer and was unable to destroy the Papacy. Like the posters above said, if you take Rome the Papacy will still exist as a unit outside of the city. If you destroy the Papal Unit another one will spawn, as another cardinal is elected Pope. I kept attacking the Papal unit each time it was spawned. When the college of cardinals got down to 2, I was unable to attack the papal unit anymore. A red X appeared when I moved my unit in to attack, which was dissapointing. I am pretty sure that I wouldn't have been able to assasinate the Pope either.

Does anyone else know how to destroy the Papacy completley, either as a catholic or non-catholic faction?

**The New Che Guevara** · 11-22-2008, 01:27

I've done this is an english campaign... I had everything, refused to give the pope any land, got excommunicated about 5 times. As a catholic faction, he cannot be destroyed. Because as soon as you get a priest/bishop above 4 piety, he will go to the college of cardinals and thus be pope. and it is possible to assassinate pope's. I did it and ended up with a 95% chance of it happening. I killed off all his family, waited for my bishops to die, and the papacy still existed. I even wiped all of his forces into nothing.

**oz_wwjd** · 11-22-2008, 02:11

I'm not sure about this,but I think you need to make sure that no other faction has any bishops either,and the council is completely empty,to stop him coming back.

**Arcana** · 11-22-2008, 17:03

Yes that's true. The only way to stop him ever coming back is to be a Muslim or Orthodox faction and wipe out every single Catholic faction, or at least annihilate every bishop, priest and cardinal with >4 Piety.

It is funny seeing a lonely Pope on the map with no army. Usually hangs out in the mountains north of Rome. As if he's going to retake Rome with a few Jesuits...