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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    how so
    Read the link I posted from the ACLU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    Read the link I posted from the ACLU.
    I can't find anything in the California constitution that says "important" changes must go through the legislature. I see both routes to amendment listed, but nothing that gives one more importance than the other. Like I said, their case is nonsense- it'll be a complete travesty if it's decided in their favor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Can anyone find me An actual California Constitution? I really can't give an opinion until I read how the define marriage and if it should be there in the first place.
    I doubt marriage is even mentioned.
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    I doubt marriage is even mentioned.
    If its not mentioned than these Judges are kind of dumb
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    All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.
    (b) A citizen or class of citizens may not be granted privileges or immunities not granted on the same terms to all citizens. Privileges or immunities granted by the Legislature may be altered or revoked.
    This could very well be what the ACLU meant.
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    Not very convincing at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Not very convincing at all.
    How so? I mean, it's in the State constitution, and if I recall, you were in support of following the Constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwedishFish View Post
    How so? I mean, it's in the State constitution, and if I recall, you were in support of following the Constitution.
    I am. However expanding the meaning of "happiness" to include this cheapens the meaning of the document. Especially when you consider the courts found it prudent to do so between the 7 of them. If that is in fact what the constitution says and there was no mention of marriage before the judges made there decision then a referendum was a way to go. It sucks that it didnt pass but I have a hard time finding this illegal. The ACLUs case is on sand.

    Actually what really sucks is gay rights is now being taken back because crazies on both sides want there oppnent to be run into the ground.
    Last edited by Strike For The South; 11-07-2008 at 01:58.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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