Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
Always put the Bible first, if an ancient text isn't there then it's because God didn't want it to be. I looked up my idea on preordination, however it lacks any clear scriptural backing, and appears to refer to specific matters and not salvation, as PVC said.
Your concept of the formation of the bible is extra-scriptual. The text itself does not support it, and neither do the historical accounts of its formation.

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblica...ristian_canons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Councils_of_Carthage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synod_of_Hippo

also, the Gospels clearly contradict in detail, examine the calling of the first four diciples in Mathew and John. Peter and his brother are the same but the other two are different, in Mathew Peter is litterally a fisherman, in John he is a diciple of John the Baptist.

Remember, if Jesus had not died on the cross, then we would all go to Hell. It is only because God suffered our punishment that we can ever be gifted His grace. God is just, the wages of all sin will be payed. However, He chose to take the punishment for some - therefore it is God Himself who has been the only one to suffer injustice.

For example, say there are two criminals on trial. Both are on trial for seperate murders, but face the same charges. One murderer is poor and has a rubbish lawyer. The other is a rich gangster, and has bribed the whole jury. So, the poor murderer goes to jail for life, while the rich gangster walks free. The rich gangster escaped justice, but does that make the fate of the poor man any less just? Should he be freed so he received equal punishment to the gangster?

The only difference with the scenario in salvation is that God took the sentence for the rich gangster (the elect), and He did it out of mercy. God was the only one to suffer from injustice, yet He chose to do it anyway.

With God having suffered as He did, should we now complain to Him, saying why did He not take everyone's punishment, why did He not suffer greater injustice for mankind's crimes?

It is important that the elect realise, that just as the rich gangster, they are really no better than the poor man that goes to jail.
So God is unjust?