Gay Rights are Not Civil Rights

[CountArach]

The constitution is the supreme law of the land.

Your "rights" only go so far as people in power deem them to. Thats why every time a judge hands down a decision like this the constitution loses a little more power everyone (even the gays) loses a little more freedom.

Allow me to channel my inner Tribesman:



The idea that you lose freedom because other people have freedoms they were born with recognised is utterly ludicrous... completely and utterly ludicrous....

[Strike For The South]

Allow me to channel my inner Tribesman:



The idea that you lose freedom because other people have freedoms they were born with recognised is utterly ludicrous... completely and utterly ludicrous....

and you missed the point of my post.

[CountArach]

and you missed the point of my post.

That would be a nice role-reversal.

[Strike For The South]

That would be a nice role-reversal.

I understand you. I think you are very misguided but I understand you.

[Kralizec]

If you ask me there's absolutely no good reason to enable heterosexual couples to get a legal status with all sorts of legal and fiscal perks, and to deny it to same sex couples. If you don't think it's discrimination, picture a law making it illegal to practice the sabbath on any other day than sunday and tell me if that's discriminatory.

That said, countries have been handing out marriage licenses for over two centuries and homosexuality has only recently gained some tolerance and even more recently, acceptance. It's thoroughly political, and the introduction of gay marriage or civil unions should proceed through elected officials and not through unelected magistrates.

Then go through the Legislature. All I am saying is this - if the Legislature isn't going to ensure a basic human right is met, the other branches have to do it. That is the nature of checks and balances.

Uh, no.

In the Netherlands the top court once refused to acknowledge a gay couple's right to marry because facilitating such a change was the job of the legislator. A couple of years later we were the first country in the world to introduce gay marriage.