President Bush Leaving Office More Unpoular Than Nixon

[Kralizec]

You left out a p

Many politicians that were unpopular at the end of their career are judged more benignly after a couple of years or decades, look at Truman for example. Bush, I think, is judged unfairly by some things wich he didn't influence to a meaningful degree. On the other hand quite a few people didn't mind Guantanamo Bay for example (or still don't), stuff wich might be judged negatively by larger numbers in the future. I think he'll end on the lower half of most lists, but I don't think many historians will call him the worst ever.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Bush is one of America's greatest presidents ever.

While the world was celebrating the end of history and the final triumph of liberal democracy, Bush was one of the few leaders to recognise that there was a grave threat brewing. That of Islamofascism. Bravely resisting public opinion at home and abroad, Bush managed to devote a great deal of the resources of the world's greatest democracy to counter the threat. Simultanously, he aggresively spread trade throughout the world, bringing and entangling East Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe and Southern Africa into a global capitalist camp.
This put the ball into the Islamofascist camp. Pressured by the sight of the entire world booming while they stayed behind. Pressured by a front that was brought home. Pressured by the sight of Iraq slowly turning into a stable country. Pressured by an ideological front that centered around America's staunch counterstrategy to Islamofascism. Slowly, they crumbled under the weight, like Reagan managed to crush Communism by outspending it.

Bush also offered a more alluring counterstrategy. America under Bush was more open than at any time before. Trade flourished more than ever before, thanks to Bush' strict adherence to open trade agreements, despite fierce opposition at home and abroad. Bush allowed in more immigrants than any president before, despite fierce opposition. The openness of Bush' America culminated in the election of a Black president named Barack - a man of inconsequential further historical relevance - as would be the norm after him in America, and which, as always, would slowly spread troughout the free world. A free world, that had been enlarged enormously thanks the the aggressive efforts of Bush.

Roosevelt, Reagan, Bush, the trio of presidents that, at a crucial crossroads of history, recognised the danger and in the face of nearly insurmountable opposition and outright mockery, oversaw a great American triumph over the forces of evil. This, each managed by opening up America. By boldly engaging in the challenge the world set before America and overcoming it. By tapping America's Godlike potential for change, for ever more openness, for overcoming any odds.

Bush was a fantastic president.

[Hooahguy]

i love when ur sarcastic....

[Louis VI the Fat]

i love when ur sarcastic....

What if I'm not?


I say the world wasted its energy on petty rearguard arguments against Bush. While I have an eye for the big picture and the flow of the long undercurrents of history.

Reagan was intensely unpopular, yet we now acknowledge he was the beginning of the end of a communist storm that had been brweing for decades. Roosevelt was intensely oppossed, yet he brought an end to a long tide of increasingly powerful undemocratic forces.
Bush recognised the danger as well. And he has set all the parameters for the triumph of liberty.

History hasn't written his verdict about Bush yet...

[Marshal Murat]

Louis, if you want us to read Conservipedia, just link it.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Yes, Hooahguy, while maybe not being sarcastic, I was not entirely convinced myself that what i wrote was true. You picked up on that correctly.

However, I am not entirely convinced that I was wrong either. There is a possibility that in thirty years history will judge Bush in the way I outlined. There is a possibility that they are right about it too.

It is always good to challenge yourself. To take the other perspective. I still struggle with the neo-con project that dominated Bush I. What if they were right?
They named North Korea, Iraq and Iran as an axis of evil. They strove for regime change. There is part of me that thinks that maybe they were not wrong.
Islamofascism has been brewing for decades. Bush and the neo-cons made themselves their enemy. They recognised the danger, they named it, they met it physically and ideologically. Were they wrong?

After all these years, I am still struggling with it. I am still struggling with Iraq too. I can honestly not say with full confidence that they were wrong.

[LittleGrizzly]

After all these years, I am still struggling with it. I am still struggling with Iraq too. I can honestly not say with full confidence that they were wrong.

I know what you mean..... the talk of country building and replacing tyranny with democracys are very lofty goals that it is hard to disagree with, infact i would say they are fantastic goals for any foriegn policy, but what it comes down to for me with iraq is, wrong place, wrong time and wrong reasons. Apart from that i was 100% behind the thing...

[Ice]

What if I'm not?


I say the world wasted its energy on petty rearguard arguments against Bush. While I have an eye for the big picture and the flow of the long undercurrents of history.

Reagan was intensely unpopular, yet we now acknowledge he was the beginning of the end of a communist storm that had been brweing for decades. Roosevelt was intensely oppossed, yet he brought an end to a long tide of increasingly powerful undemocratic forces.
Bush recognised the danger as well. And he has set all the parameters for the triumph of liberty.

History hasn't written his verdict about Bush yet...

I hadn't really thought about that too much to be honest. I'll get back to you in about 10 or 20 years.

Louis, if you want us to read Conservipedia, just link it.

Bush was the best thing since sliced bread, god actually told bush to invade iraq, and apparently Charles Darwin was a monkey himself! This and much much more!

[Ronin]

Bush was the best thing since sliced bread, god actually told bush to invade iraq,

but God told the Pope that the war on Iraq was wrong....does this make God a flip-flopper????

God also told us to beat our swords into plowshares....

God...wrong on defense....wrong for America!

[Gregoshi]

Bush was the best thing since sliced bread, god actually told bush to invade iraq,

but God told the Pope that the war on Iraq was wrong....does this make God a flip-flopper????

Wrong conclusion Ronin. God wanted Bush to be a bad president.

[Devastatin Dave]

Bush is one of America's greatest presidents ever.

While the world was celebrating the end of history and the final triumph of liberal democracy, Bush was one of the few leaders to recognise that there was a grave threat brewing. That of Islamofascism. Bravely resisting public opinion at home and abroad, Bush managed to devote a great deal of the resources of the world's greatest democracy to counter the threat. Simultanously, he aggresively spread trade throughout the world, bringing and entangling East Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe and Southern Africa into a global capitalist camp.
This put the ball into the Islamofascist camp. Pressured by the sight of the entire world booming while they stayed behind. Pressured by a front that was brought home. Pressured by the sight of Iraq slowly turning into a stable country. Pressured by an ideological front that centered around America's staunch counterstrategy to Islamofascism. Slowly, they crumbled under the weight, like Reagan managed to crush Communism by outspending it.

Bush also offered a more alluring counterstrategy. America under Bush was more open than at any time before. Trade flourished more than ever before, thanks to Bush' strict adherence to open trade agreements, despite fierce opposition at home and abroad. Bush allowed in more immigrants than any president before, despite fierce opposition. The openness of Bush' America culminated in the election of a Black president named Barack - a man of inconsequential further historical relevance - as would be the norm after him in America, and which, as always, would slowly spread troughout the free world. A free world, that had been enlarged enormously thanks the the aggressive efforts of Bush.

Roosevelt, Reagan, Bush, the trio of presidents that, at a crucial crossroads of history, recognised the danger and in the face of nearly insurmountable opposition and outright mockery, oversaw a great American triumph over the forces of evil. This, each managed by opening up America. By boldly engaging in the challenge the world set before America and overcoming it. By tapping America's Godlike potential for change, for ever more openness, for overcoming any odds.

Bush was a fantastic president.

Another thing people forget is that no other US president has given as much funding for Africa and foriegn aid to the world. Not only that, he put more money into stem cell research than Clinton....

But of course, I hate him for those things, so go figure!!! I wish he was REALLY trading blood for oil. Things would be a lot better now.