Favorite Temples?

[Intranetusa]

What are your favorite temples to build and gods to worship in RTW Europa Barbarorum?

My favorite is always the temple that gives the trading bonuses. (ie. Ceres)

I demolish every temple and build a trading temple in its place, unless it's a rioting province - in that case I build a law/PO temple. And I usually leave the temple in the capital as the default.

[Maion Maroneios]

Mine would be Zeus Pater, for Makedonia and basically all that give law and order bonuses.

Maion

[Aemilius Paulus]

I am not sure is you are aware of this, Intranetusa, but Temples of Ceres only work for cities with no corruption. Temple of Ceres will give you a very small income bonus, but it is better than nothing, of course. A law temple is what you really should have in most of your cities and towns. Just check the city details scroll and see if you have any corruption at all. If you do, then you must build a Temple of Jupiter. Not only does the Temple of Jupiter give you much more public order (due to happiness and law) than the Temple of Ceres (ToC), but it also cuts corruption, which drastically increases your income. The money bonus of ToC, on the other hand, is so ridiculously small that it is only viable for a corruption-free city, which are usually the ones close to your capital or with a great, law-giving governor in them.

As for the rioting provinces, temples of law OK, but a lot of times, a temple of health might do better, as the temple of health has a double bonus: the happiness due to public order/health as well as happiness due to population growth, which is of course caused by the health bonus. As the city/town gets more population, you'll see your tax income rising dramatically, and the city itself will be able to support more upkeep, thereby lightening the load for other cities/towns.

In my current Romani campaign, only the core cities have Temples of Ceres in them. All of my other cities/towns (I have 107 total) have the temples of Jupiter. The troublesome provinces also have the Temples to Jupiter, as they raise income even more than taxes for those provinces on the edges of my empire.

[Tartaros]

As Arche Seleukeia: Marduk for unsure territory, Apollon for trade/Coastle citys, and Seleukos for the royal satraps
But my favorite is Seleukos!

[Intranetusa]

In my current Romani campaign, only the core cities have Temples of Ceres in them. All of my other cities/towns (I have 107 total) have the temples of Jupiter. The troublesome provinces also have the Temples to Jupiter, as they raise income even more than taxes for those provinces on the edges of my empire.

Whew...yeh, I've actually only built the Temple of Ceres near my capital...mainly in the Italian peninsula, Sicily, Corscia, Sardinia, and Carthage (the main trading cities with large ports)

Good thing you told me or I would've started demolishing all the temples and rebuilding them as Temple of Ceres from Spain to Turkey! :p

[Aemilius Paulus]

Sicily, Corscia, Sardinia, and Carthage (the main trading cities with large ports)

Do those cities have any corruption? You should really check. It is those huge trading cities (and mining towns) that always have the most corruption. That ToC trade benefit will be no more than 250-300 mnai - and the trade bonus does not seem to affect the large cities much more than towns, while the ToJ (Temple of Jupiter) will benefits will be at least 4 times greater.

EDIT:

Good thing you told me or I would've started demolishing all the temples and rebuilding them as Temple of Ceres from Spain to Turkey! :p

Huh? I did kind of recommend you to demolish all of those ToCs. They are horribly wasteful for any city that is not close to your capital. The trade bonus is negligent, the corruption is rampant and the public order bonus is minuscule in comparison - that's a ToC. What did I tell you that made you change your mind?

[Intranetusa]

EDIT:
Huh? I did kind of recommend you to demolish all of those ToCs. They are horribly wasteful for any city that is not close to your capital. The trade bonus is negligent, the corruption is rampant and the public order bonus is minuscule in comparison - that's a ToC. What did I tell you that made you change your mind?

No, I meant I was going to demolish my non-ToC temples to build ToC temples in their place. Currently, I only have the ToC temples in the Italian peninsula and the surrounding areas (all near my capital). Should I demolish my ToC temples and build Jupiter temples instead?

[Chris1959]

I like to have a mixture of Romanii temples, it doesn't do to anger the gods, though Jupiter tends to be most common. Also I want my FM's to be able to do the grand tour and pick up traits.

[Hax]

Any which gives Law. Law is good. Very good.

[Grriffon]

Interesting. I have also been rampantly building ceres-like temples in almost all of my campaigns. And wondering why my larger towns eventually become unmanageable and unprofitable.

[Dutchhoplite]

I usually let chance determine which temple i build in a city :)

*rolls dice*

[Aemilius Paulus]

Should I demolish my ToC temples and build Jupiter temples instead?

Yes, so so now. I would encourage everyone else do the same, except for the corruption-free cities of course. I realized this in about 260 BC, and I used process_cq and add_money cheats to switch most of my temples. I know that was cheating, but I really did not feel like tearing down all those expensive temples and building new ones, which takes time too.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

EB is best played role played.

... that means, I role play my temples. Pella of course has a (Wonderous since 197!) Temple of Zeus-Olympos, and I build them also in other settlements due to their big law bonus. I like the Dyonisos temples for far away settlements because the give you some unbeatable 50% happiness. For trading cities I like Hermes, of course, and Hera is nice for some very special cities in the core of your empire which offer outstanding recruitment. Herakles is a bit underwhelming in my opinion, after all there is no bonus upgrade from lvl 3 to lvl 4, so I limited this to some Thracian settlements due to roleplaying. Finally Asklepieos, well, seldom - it just doesn't appeal much to me. Cities are already very big in EB / RTW.

[Aemilius Paulus]

EB is best played role played.

That is a matter of opinion, thank you very much. I do some roleplaying, but not very much. However, to tell you the truth, considering the level of EB's unprecedented historical accuracy, roleplaying does seem like the best/most appropriate thing to do.

[Starforge]

I am not sure is you are aware of this, Intranetusa, but Temples of Ceres only work for cities with no corruption.

Just curious, does this apply for the top end temples of Juno as well (the expensive ones with the trade bonus?)

[Aemilius Paulus]

Just curious, does this apply for the top end temples of Juno as well (the expensive ones with the trade bonus?)

Yes. Pretty much all of the trade-bonus temples are inferior to the law-giving temples. Once again, with the exception of the corruption-free cities.

[Starforge]

Yes. Pretty much all of the trade-bonus temples are inferior to the law-giving temples. Once again, with the exception of the corruption-free cities.

Ah. Good info, tyas.

[Intranetusa]

Yep, playing as Romani, you're fine if all your trade bonus temples are in the Italian pennisula with Rome as your capital. Of course, once you expand your empire in the late game, you might want to change your capital. I was thinking of moving my capital to Byzantium after I take on Gold and Silver Death. :D

[Starforge]

Yep, playing as Romani, you're fine if all your trade bonus temples are in the Italian pennisula with Rome as your capital. Of course, once you expand your empire in the late game, you might want to change your capital. I was thinking of moving my capital to Byzantium after I take on Gold and Silver Death. :D

Pretty much down to the gold death atm myself as they control the eastern half of the map with fronts in North Africa and Greece/Dacia. Only Baktria has anything remotely resembling some territory left (grey is at 1 province.) Elite Phalanxes on hard = royal pita.

OT, I usually leave temples in place as is without worrying much about the bonuses save the Mars style temples which I always uproot.