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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    i prefer our national security over the security of our marine friends (regarding fish, not the Marines)
    Then do it in the Atlantic...
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    but then, bythe enviromentalist POV, the navy would be hurting all the fish over there.....
    also, the USN is based in san diego. do you know how much it will cost to move the entire fleet there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    also, the USN is based in san diego.
    Err......as a naval enthusist, I'd have to correct you.

    The United States Navy is known as the "Two Sea Fleet", as it operates in both the Atlantic and Pacific. The US Pacific Fleet is based off Pearl Harbour, and the Atlantic Fleet is based off Norfolk, if I recall.

    do you know how much it will cost to move the entire fleet there?
    Again, being a Two Sea Navy, you would not be moving the entire fleet, as there is already one in the Atlantic. We could easily test sonar in the Atlantic as in the Pacific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwedishFish View Post
    Err......as a naval enthusist, I'd have to correct you.

    The United States Navy is known as the "Two Sea Fleet", as it operates in both the Atlantic and Pacific. The US Pacific Fleet is based off Pearl Harbour, and the Atlantic Fleet is based off Norfolk, if I recall.



    Again, being a Two Sea Navy, you would not be moving the entire fleet, as there is already one in the Atlantic. We could easily test sonar in the Atlantic as in the Pacific.
    i stand corrected, i guess.

    but why should you hold sonar tests in the atlantic when the subs which you want to test it on are in the pacific?
    anyhow, they will be both harming sea life....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    i stand corrected, i guess.

    but why should you hold sonar tests in the atlantic when the subs which you want to test it on are in the pacific?
    anyhow, they will be both harming sea life....
    We have submarines in active service in the Atlantic Fleet, all able to be tested as well.

    Oh, anyway, I always stuck with this quote:

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwedishFish View Post
    We have submarines in active service in the Atlantic Fleet, all able to be tested as well.

    Oh, anyway, I always stuck with this quote:

    "There cannot be democracy without dissent"
    true, but there are subs in both fleets that need to be constantly tested. again, its no use to only test the subs in the atlantic, b/c the subs in the pacific also need to be tested constantly.
    just because the sonar system work in one sub doesnt mean it will work in all of them. they need to be constantly tested. besides, then well probably upset the environmentalists on the east coast.....
    no-win situation for the navy if the listen to the environmentalists.
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