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    How would you respond to those that say it's ok to kill animals for no reason, because animals kill other animals?
    Animals rarely kill other animals for no reason.
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    Sasaki has argued that we can't object to senseless deaths of animals because cats hurt other animals. I think you've offered a good counter-argument.
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    If I may sound so snobbish, I like to think of humans as being above animals.

    However, that is purely in a moral or civilized sense. Animals feel pain just as surely as we do, and to inflict pain on an animal in the name of anything other than self-defence or the need to survive is shameful.
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    I'd say its as valid an opinion as any, and it seems to have good, compassionate grounds.

    Senseless killing, by definition, is senseless. That makes it unwarranted, unproductive, sadistic and destructive. None of these things are particularly commendable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    Senseless killing, by definition, is senseless. That makes it unwarranted, unproductive, sadistic and destructive. None of these things are particularly commendable.
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    I think it is reasonable to try to prevent the most obvious cases of gratuitous suffering or torture of animals. But beyond that, do animals deserve to be given other rights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guildenstern View Post
    I think it is reasonable to try to prevent the most obvious cases of gratuitous suffering or torture of animals. But beyond that, do animals deserve to be given other rights?
    I don't believe so. I think that current animal abuse laws are sufficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guildenstern View Post
    I think it is reasonable to try to prevent the most obvious cases of gratuitous suffering or torture of animals. But beyond that, do animals deserve to be given other rights?
    Thought 'yes' before I gave it any thought but now I think 'no' Tribes and Fenring are right. Animal rights is unworkable we will have to do with a pledge for good behaviour of those making a living there, and act firmly against what everybody should be able to recognise as unacceptable.

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