Naval/ Fleet composition question(s)

[Celtic_Punk]

try finding a better source than Wiki.

[Intranetusa]

try finding a better source than Wiki.

Well, we are talking about the wiki article itself - about what the wiki article says about the battle of Salamis. And before you start bashing wiki, it has been shown that wiki is generally accurate. For the Salamis article, it lists its sources as primary and secondary evidence from the works of Herodotus.


And you don't need wiki to know that Ecnomus was not the largest naval battle in history.

[Atilius]

OK this is getting silly. I was referring the the first article you linked to, discussing the worlds largest naval battles. Then you linked to an entirely different article, the one on Salamis.

[Intranetusa]

OK this is getting silly. I was referring the the first article you linked to, discussing the worlds largest naval battles. Then you linked to an entirely different article, the one on Salamis.

We were comparing Ecnomus with Salamis on wiki, so it's only natural I'd link it to another wiki article on Salamis. The point is despite all the exaggerations for both events, the 700 ships of Ecnomus is still not nearly large enough to be "the" largest naval battle of ancient times.

[Atilius]

We were comparing Ecnomus with Salamis on wiki,...

No, I was asking if you'd read the article you linked to, since you somehow concluded that more naval personell were involved at Salamis than at Ecnomus; a conclusion that article does not support.

[Intranetusa]

No, I was asking if you'd read the article you linked to, since you somehow concluded that more naval personell were involved at Salamis than at Ecnomus; a conclusion that article does not support.

Then maybe you should read the article and the article links again.

In the first article, it says that it is very likely Salamis had at least 200,000 participants. For Ecnomus, the article says it is improbable it had 200,000 participants.

1st article Description of Salamis ---> "it is thought possible that 200,000 sailors, soldiers and marines took part."

1st article Description of Ecnomus ---> "If this were true, which is unlikely, it would make it probable that at least 200,000"

And if you took the time to go to the article links that discussed the figures in more detail, you would've read the part that says the 200,000 figure was only for the Persian side, so that means Salamis had over 200,000 if you include the Greek figure as well.

2nd article Description of Salamis ---> "With an average of 200 men per ship onboard, the total Persian naval force would be at least 200,000 men, without taking into account the numerous auxiliary vessels."


So going by just the first article, there are still more people in Salamis than in Ecnomus...and that's even after using the improbable Ecnomus figures.

Going by the 2nd article, it is evident that there were definitely way more people in Salamis than in Ecnomus.

No matter which article you go by, both wiki articles say Salamis has more participants than Ecnomus.