Great Britain is not an Island

[JR-]

But England is an Island in the mind of the British. Whatever it cost: the Pound which cut UK from main market, the fact that 80% of the trade is within Europe.

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about 40/60 in goods.

[Yoyoma1910]

truly? that's not what i'm seeing:

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/downloa.../Mm24Sep08.pdf

Page 4 total trade in 2007 = 368,337 Export and 415,817 Import (Bop £millions)
Page 6 total trade with EU in 2007 = 127,678 Export and 169,142 Import (Bop £millions)

Looks like closer to 1/3 of the value of all trade is done with the EU..............

You need to be comparing page 6 to page 7 to get an accurate comparison. Not 4 and 6.


Otherwise you're comparing apple and oranges, to just apples.

[JR-]

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trust ONS to give global figures for goods & services but only goods figures broken down between EU and non-EU.

[Yoyoma1910]

Because page 4 includes both goods and services, whereas page 6 is simple goods. It doesn't include services. Page 7, is "Value of Trade in Goods with Non-Eu Countries."





It's called loading the deck. It's not an accurate assessment of ratios.

[Louis VI the Fat]

These were the statistics I couldn't find earlier. Section F gives a 'Geographical analysis. Page 47:

Trade in Goods with EU total for 2007:
127,678 Export and 169,142 Import
Trade in Goods with Non-EU total for 2007:
93,025 Export and 140,813 Import.

Some 60% of UK's trade in goods is with the EU.

[Yoyoma1910]

Section F gives a 'Geographical analysis. Page 47:

EU total for 2007:
127,678 Export and 169,142 Import
Non-EU total for 2007:
93,025 Export and 140,813 Import.

Some 60% of UK's trade is with the EU.

Yes, I saw that.



Europe is a big house with many rooms. And a common thread runs through those rooms, tying the whole thing together.







Anyway, while one may feel whatever about their identity, one can never really escape ones family.

[JR-]

These were the statistics I couldn't find earlier. Section F gives a 'Geographical analysis. Page 47:

Trade in Goods with EU total for 2007:
127,678 Export and 169,142 Import
Trade in Goods with Non-EU total for 2007:
93,025 Export and 140,813 Import.

Some 60% of UK's trade in goods is with the EU.

yup, what i was after was total figures for goods and services, given that services make up a large proportion of UK trade, i didn't quite manage that obviously. :)

[Louis VI the Fat]

yup, what i was after was total figures for goods and services, given that services make up a large proportion of UK trade, i didn't quite manage that obviously. :)

I did not manage to find those numbers either.

I couldn't even find these numbers, and am happy you did. Your Google-fu beat mine.


I am looking forward to the numbers for services with confidence, though.

Maybe the UK government realised that they were made up for a large part by Britain's finance and banking sector, and quickly erased all trace of them from the books.

[JR-]

what are you confident they will confirm for you, in relation to this discussion?

i only brought them to correct Brenus on what i new to be an inaccurate figure of 80%.

[Brenus]

I didn't think they were accurate.
Does it include all the trips to Calais? Specially for X-mass

[JR-]

probably not.