Discussion over moderation of spam (moved)

**Pontius Pilate** · 11-20-2008, 10:35

Originally Posted by bovi

You're free to think so. I have seen the state of the forums before the mass of spamming came, the state when it came and was not moderated, and the state after it was moderated. I much prefer the former state, however I'll settle for the latter when that is no longer possible.

Scores in that thread before I took affair:
Posts about steppe warrior pictures - 8
Woot - 1
Balloons - 13
Other - 2

Okay, I forgot one post somewhere, so I guess you can chalk one more up for on-topic if you like. Do you see the trend?

Edit: Anyway, as this is way off-topic, we can take any further discussion over PM.

so what was the forum like before the "mass spamming" came. was everthing "enlightened conversation" and what are those statistics about??

**Aemilius Paulus** · 11-20-2008, 13:37

Originally Posted by Pontius Pilate

so what was the forum like before the "mass spamming" came. was everthing "enlightened conversation" and what are those statistics about??

If you want to see how it was like before the spamming, you should just check the early history of this forum by going back to the erliest threads. For me, this forum has 240 pages. You might have different settings on, but this forums is still pretty sizable. Beleive me, [bovi[/B] is right. I have seen that trend myself as I was reading the past threads, starting from threads #1. I have actually seen threads whose only purpose was spam and nothing else. Most of the threads during that "middle phase" degenerated into spam, and I have even seen the EB team members join the spamfest

Check this thread out:https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=93993. The thread starts out badly disguised as spam, but eventually, the people participating in it simply post SPAM in all caps and various fonts just for the sake of spam and increasing the number of posts they have. Even Tellos Athenaios and bovi participated in spamming.

Or this: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=56169

As for those statistics, I believe they came from the "Pictures of Steppe Warriors" thread: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=109741, that came very close to being locked. The moderators of this forum are actually pretty nice as moderators go. They allow so many things that they could have just locked.

**Hax** · 11-20-2008, 16:51

Well, it's true that some months ago, moderation was less harsh. See; closing of EB Tavern.

**Pontius Pilate** · 11-20-2008, 21:38

Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus

If you want to see how it was like before the spamming, you should just check the early history of this forum by going back to the erliest threads. For me, this forum has 240 pages. You might have different settings on, but this forums is still pretty sizable. Beleive me, [bovi[/B] is right. I have seen that trend myself as I was reading the past threads, starting from threads #1. I have actually seen threads whose only purpose was spam and nothing else. Most of the threads during that "middle phase" degenerated into spam, and I have even seen the EB team members join the spamfest

Check this thread out:https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=93993. The thread starts out badly disguised as spam, but eventually, the people participating in it simply post SPAM in all caps and various fonts just for the sake of spam and increasing the number of posts they have. Even Tellos Athenaios and bovi participated in spamming.

Or this: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=56169

As for those statistics, I believe they came from the "Pictures of Steppe Warriors" thread: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=109741, that came very close to being locked. The moderators of this forum are actually pretty nice as moderators go. They allow so many things that they could have just locked.

the first two links I can see are totally spam, and that's what one would think when they hear the word spam. but I don't know how the "Pictures of Steppe Warriors" thread comes even close to those. So if a thread goes a little off topic, it is considered spam? Is there some way that you measure this? how much OT is too much OT? The threads nowadays may not be as "enlightened" as the old ones, but why do they all have to be considered spam? most of us are after all just people, and not scholars, so I don't know how "enlightened" our conversations can be.

**Maion Maroneios** · 11-21-2008, 01:50

Wow, wait a minute. When did I create a thread like this? Who did this, I wonder? Sure didn't like it, it's like violation of my privacy. A sincere

to the one who did this, really.

Maion

**Foot** · 11-21-2008, 01:55

bovi did. He closed the other thread but allowed this avenue of discussion to be continued by moving the associated posts to this thread.

Foot

**Maion Maroneios** · 11-21-2008, 01:57

I didn't want to continue any discussion. He could create a new thread of his own, not present me as someone who attacks the EB moderators because he believes things should be less strict. If I wanted to create a thread like this, I would have done so myself. Even a simple mention would be ok with me, but this... No. Plus, I didn't continue this back at the other thread.

Maion

**Foot** · 11-21-2008, 01:59

This thread isn't about you. Other people thought it was a subject worth talking about. Yours was the first post that occured in the discussion. If you want to make a complaint PM bovi and ask him to change it.

Foot