Sab'yn and Client Rulers
I started a campaign as Sab'yn and after conquering Tamane I built a type 4 government there. However, this did not give me any ability to recruit a general, so I started an Arverni campaign just to see if they got generals from their type 4s, or if this was just a problem for the Sab'yn, and they did. Surely this is a mistake, yes?
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Sounds like a mistake, yes. I imagine that it's only for that settlement. Can you verify if you can recruit generals in other settlements as Saba?
Edit: Seems that was forgotten, yes. I don't know which general type is the most proper, so I'll update the fix as soon as the historians get back to me. Please let me know if there are more settlements lacking them.
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Re: Sab'yn and Client Rulers
Alright, after checking it out more throughly, here's a list of settlements without any recruitable generals for Saba (and I'd suspect any other faction as well):
Maryab
Tamane
Sabata
Carna
Ubar
Bostra
Petra
Homna
Gerrha
You can get Greek generals when you come to Hierosolyma, Palmyra (which also allows for eastern generals), Alexandreia or Charax.
Last edited by The Celtic Viking; 11-24-2008 at 19:58.
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Thanks a lot! This is very useful.
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Re: Sab'yn and Client Rulers
Glad I can help. I've now found that you can't get any in Meroe or Axum either. I haven't had time to check any further up there (save Alexandria) though. (If no other word is given I'll check it out tomorrow.)
Last edited by The Celtic Viking; 11-26-2008 at 19:46.
Re: Sab'yn and Client Rulers
The problem here is that we never decided on any general unit that would fit in those provinces, so there was no client rulers available there before either. If the historians can come to a conclusion I'll make a fix for it.
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Re: Sab'yn and Client Rulers
Any response from the historians on the client ruler unit issue?
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An Arabian type cavalry unit would be cool and fitting.
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No, there has been no response, despite me bumping it about 10 times. I've given up on it.
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Please not! We need those Puppet-Rulerz down there!
Could you make a fix with African Light Cav and possibly redo that if the team-historians come to a conclusion? Don't want to move for every town a client ruler from my other outlying territories...
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Why not just fill those areas with the Hellenistic Client Ruler bodyguard, at least as a filler, assuming you were going to make a specific new bodyguard for those areas? You could always justify it as finding one of the Hellenes that had emigrated to such far away locales and giving him an offer he can't refuse. I mean, the Saba have access to the Pantodopai Phalangitai as a regional, which means enough Hellenic colonists arrived that they were able to provide training, officers, troops, etc for Macedonian-style phalanxes, right?
If you were/are going to make a BG unit for each I would recommend going by what the nobles of each area preferred to fight. For Axum/Meroe, that might be a version of the Ethiopian Cavalry or the Ethiopan Swordsmen. For the Arabian peninsula I would probably have to say the Saba Medium cavalry unless you wanted to use the Saba Noble Infantry, though that would basically be like giving the Client Ruler the Saba FM bodyguard, right (haven't played as Saba myself)?
If you don't want to do that for historical accuracy reasons maybe you could tell us what files we would have to mod/add/etc and we could start a thread in the modding section and see about making an unofficial one. I'll be the first to admit that one of the main reasons I have avoided the Arabian peninsula like the plague is for its lack of client rulers. The fact that Axum and Meroe also lack them is new to me though.
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I'm dreaming of a Saba campaign so somewhat interested in this. I guess the simplest way would be to use a hackerish way, i.e.
1) Decide which generals should be available where. Available general units are
2) Using DESCR_REGIONS.TXT as a reference, update export_descr_buildings. E.g., to allow recruitment of Hellenistic General in Tamane(Qataban) one can add a lineCode:steppe general rauxsa-alanna baexdzhyntae hellenistic general lonchophoroi eastern general persian cavalry african general numidian nobles germanic general gastiz italic general campanian cavalry celtic general neitos
BTW I've been amazed to see how EB team bypassed the restriction on the number of hidden resources by the means of bit flags :)Code:recruit "hellenistic general lonchophoroi" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource E and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8
Last edited by iamphet; 01-12-2009 at 12:45.
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I believe below are all settlements without recruitable generals
So corresponding EDB entries will look likeCode:Gerrha(Gerrhaia_Arabia) Terhazza(Eremos) Augila_settlement(Augila) Petra(Sinai) Meroe(Kush) Homna(Maketa) Bostra(Nabataia) Axum(Diamat) Carna(Main) Ubar(Zufar) Patala(Sind) Sabata(Hadramaut) Maryab(Saba) Tamane(Qataban)
Code:; Gerrha(Gerrhaia_Arabia) recruit "YOUR GENERAL HERE" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource E and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8 ; Terhazza(Eremos) recruit "YOUR GENERAL HERE" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource A and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8 ; Augila_settlement(Augila) recruit "YOUR GENERAL HERE" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource A and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8 ; Petra(Sinai) recruit "YOUR GENERAL HERE" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8 ; Meroe(Kush) recruit "YOUR GENERAL HERE" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource E and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource n8 ; Homna(Maketa) recruit "YOUR GENERAL HERE" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource E and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8 ; Bostra(Nabataia) recruit "YOUR GENERAL HERE" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8 ; Axum(Diamat) recruit "YOUR GENERAL HERE" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource E and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8 ; Carna(Main) recruit "YOUR GENERAL HERE" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource E and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8 ; Ubar(Zufar) recruit "YOUR GENERAL HERE" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource E and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8 ; Patala(Sind) recruit "YOUR GENERAL HERE" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource D and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource n8 ; Sabata(Hadramaut) recruit "YOUR GENERAL HERE" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource E and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8 ; Maryab(Saba) recruit "YOUR GENERAL HERE" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource E and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8 ; Tamane(Qataban) recruit "YOUR GENERAL HERE" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource E and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8
Last edited by iamphet; 01-12-2009 at 14:57.
Re: Sab'yn and Client Rulers
Cool but I believe you can leave Terhazza out in any case. Isn't that the unreachable desert settlement?
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Sure, I just didn't want to change automatically generated lines ;)
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ok so I dump the above code into my export_descr_buildings file? Anything else I need to do? Thanks for the fix btw.Originally Posted by iamphet
Re: Sab'yn and Client Rulers
No. Yes. You need to choose the general (type of bodyguard) for each province. There is no general unit called YOUR GENERAL HERE.
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Re: Sab'yn and Client Rulers
For northern Arabian cities (Bosra,...) a lonchophoroi like unit could be used, as they were a popular unittype in the later game. Other arab cities, well I guess the Saby'n citizen cavalry unit is the next best thing. Though possibly the Saby'n noble infantry could be used as well.
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Okay,
how do I assign the Arabian bodyguard unit as a gov4 recruitable unit?
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What is unclear? IAmPhet has posted the code, now replace with your general choice.
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Re: Sab'yn and Client Rulers
Followed the instructions above and still doesn't work for me.
Extract of my EDB.txt file ....
; ------------------------------- RECRUITABLE GENERALS-----------------------
recruit "african general numidian nobles" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource A and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource n8
; Gerrha(Gerrhaia_Arabia)
recruit "african general numidian nobles" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource EA and hidden_resource E and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8
; Terhazza(Eremos)
recruit "african general numidian nobles" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource A and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8
; Augila_settlement(Augila)
recruit "african general numidian nobles" 0 requires factions { gauls, scythia, romans_brutii, britons, dacia, thrace, romans_scipii, spain, greek_cities, macedon, parthia, carthage, numidia, egypt, seleucid, pontus, armenia, romans_julii, germans, saba, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource A and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8................
Puzzled....anyone shed any light?
Also tried rebuilding Type 4 govt from scratch.....is it not save game compatable?
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From validation tool....
Changed file: .\eb\data\descr_model_battle.txt (expected checksum 62d3d0f9b2618ec123ffb7245dca012c, got c9610c6b5b59b2bcf6433a1fb657de80)
Changed file: .\eb\data\export_descr_buildings.txt (expected checksum 9cb8429b70bc7d1ffea8dff2204de65d, got edd557e92ad13a48a886ab458d012554)
Changed file: .\eb\data\scripts\show_me\ebbs_script.txt (expected checksum 0d80ca932253456f44c501775624cc3e, got 89019077da877d2941e784e1d131a09c)
Changed file: .\ebchecklist.txt (expected checksum 7913b820b101fe190d4355157cc0c529, got 84a725d5e2806a753130821d33f770b0)
Running alex with the supplied hak.
Also now have an undying family.....oldest member 105, next 102....think my game is frelled!
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(I don't know, if you're sill interested in an answer, but for everyone, who encounters the same problem)
There are two possible positions to enter your text. One ist for the nomads and another ist for the gov IV buildings. The second one is needed to allow the recruitment of generals in gov IV buildings, but I'd recommend to copy the lines in both passages.
But I've an additional question, how or where is it defined, that a unit is a general for recruitment. I.e. I want to make an Arabian General Unit with the same skin and stats as the Sabean Medium Cavalry, what do I've to do for that?
PS: Sorry for my bad english, I'm german.
Last edited by Kival; 12-11-2009 at 19:46.
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Re: Sab'yn and Client Rulers
Your English is fine. If you do not understand my English, kann ich das ganze aber auch per PM auf Deutsch an dich senden.
To add the attribute "general" to a unit, open the "export_descr_unit.txt" and add to the line "attributes" this "general_unit".
like this:Be sure, that if you use the trivial script to launch EB, you have to change the file found here:attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, general_unit, no_custom
Rome - Total War\EB\sp game edu backup\
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Thx, no problem to understand (written) english, only to use it myself ;-).
Thank you very much, I will see, if i'm able to do that ^^.To add the attribute "general" to a unit, open the "export_descr_unit.txt" and add to the line "attributes" this "general_unit".
like this:
Be sure, that if you use the trivial script to launch EB, you have to change the file found here:
Rome - Total War\EB\sp game edu backup\
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I did not mentioned it, but you are making a backup before changing anything, do you?!
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