RAF Boss to be Released

[Louis VI the Fat]

So you're saying the RAF was a reaction against the NAZIs? Were there people making sure the Fascists could never take hold again? I don't pretend to know anything about Europe but I think Ive got it.

No, not the nazis. (Although there is a reason why red terrorism struck Italy and Germany much harder than elsewhere in the 1970s)

Erm...I tried to find a good link. To no avail. If you are really interested, I am sure there are some good links around but I can't find any right now. I would share some of my ideas, but it would be like trying to explain why the Black Panthers came about in America in the 1960's. Can't do it in a few sentences. It would take too much time for something that a fine essay that undoubtly floats around somewhere on the interwebs wouldn't explain much better and with much greater insight.

[Strike For The South]

No, not the nazis. (Although there is a reason why red terrorism struck Italy and Germany much harder than elsewhere in the 1970s)

Erm...I tried to find a good link. To no avail. If you are really interested, I am sure there are some good links around but I can't find any right now. I would share some of my ideas, but it would be like trying to explain why the Black Panthers came about in America in the 1960's. Can't do it in a few sentences. It would take too much time for something that a fine essay that undoubtly floats around somewhere on the interwebs wouldn't explain much better and with much greater insight.

I guess I'll look it up on my own. I will be back to argue with you.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Strike:

Do you realize how few Texans would ever have bothered with any of the stuff Horkheimer and Adorno cranked out? Much less internalized it for motivation/life goal purposes?

Louis is asserting that the intellectual zeitgeist that made such movements possible is so far from the US experience -- especially as crystalized in that little slice of Heaven between the Rio Grande and the Red River -- that it would be unthinkable for it to have occurred there. Remember, about the best we managed on those lines was the Simbionese Liberation Army, and they were little more than bank robbers with a Che Guevera sense of fashion.

By the way, I thought Texas was averaging 8-10 years from sentencing to execution, whereas your post implied about 3-4 years.

[Kralizec]

Germany's history might make the actions of the RAF more understandable, but not less culpable and dispicable. Christian Klar doesn't deserve to be set free, and neither did the other RAF members who have been released these past years.
Recidivism is just one factor that ought to be considered. I don't think the people involved are going to reorganize the RAF, but the only reason they've dismissed violence as a means to advance their views is because they now realize that the opportunity (if it ever existed) has long since passed.
I've read that he was involved in the decision to disband the RAF in 1998, wich is a valid reason if true. The article I read didn't have details but I'm sceptical of how useful his help was, especially because the RAF had practically stopped operating about two years after the reunification.

PS: can anyone tell me if Der Baader Meinhof Komplex is a good film?

[Strike For The South]

Strike:

Do you realize how few Texans would ever have bothered with any of the stuff Horkheimer and Adorno cranked out? Much less internalized it for motivation/life goal purposes?

Louis is asserting that the intellectual zeitgeist that made such movements possible is so far from the US experience -- especially as crystalized in that little slice of Heaven between the Rio Grande and the Red River -- that it would be unthinkable for it to have occurred there. Remember, about the best we managed on those lines was the Simbionese Liberation Army, and they were little more than bank robbers with a Che Guevera sense of fashion.

By the way, I thought Texas was averaging 8-10 years from sentencing to execution, whereas your post implied about 3-4 years.

I understand that a leftist revo group would never take root here. I was just trying to highlight the criminal justice system not so much his revo tendencies. Nine innocents is nine innocents.

I also agree that Europe has followed a very different path. I have no idea what the Simbionese liberation Army is. Im from a different generation!

Now I'm simply trying to find out what this RAF really was.


The TDCJ is a clusterintercourse. The average is ten years however we have a system that speeds you up the more heinous your crime (ever hear the Ron White quote?) So I'd imagine a communist who killed nine people in the public eye may break the record (8 months)

[Seamus Fermanagh]

[QUOTE=Strike For The South;2070627] I have no idea what the Simbionese liberation Army is. Im from a different generation!{/QUOTE]

Google "Patty Hearst" and "abduction." You should get plenty of stuff to learn about that particular cluster of numbskulls.

The TDCJ is a clusterintercourse. The average is ten years however we have a system that speeds you up the more heinous your crime (ever hear the Ron White quote?) So I'd imagine a communist who killed nine people in the public eye may break the record (8 months)

Well, now that you put it that way, such a perp would pretty much ring all the bells needed for your typical Texan group to stamp "paid" on his account quickly.