Linguistics discussion (split from new factions thread)

[Viking_Wårlord]

Isn't Elohîms coming from the cannan word 'El' designing god,if it is,then it also gave the arabic 'Allah'.

[Ibrahim]

Isn't Elohîms coming from the cannan word 'El' designing god,if it is,then it also gave the arabic 'Allah'.

*smacks VW in the nape*

Canaanite didn't lend the word El to the Arabs; arabic already had a cognate, ilah (allah being a contraction of al-ilah lit. the god). but yes, they are similar to each other in that they are of the same source.

otherwise, this is interesting information concerning the european languages.

[Viking_Wårlord]

*smacks VW in the nape*

Canaanite didn't lend the word El to the Arabs; arabic already had a cognate, ilah (allah being a contraction of al-ilah lit. the god). but yes, they are similar to each other in that they are of the same source.

otherwise, this is interesting information concerning the european languages.

I know it's a semitic language but I don't see why we wouldn't be allowed to talk about it,as you talked about Melqart earlier.

[Ibrahim]

I know it's a semitic language but I don't see why we wouldn't be allowed to talk about it,as you talked about Melqart earlier.

that wasn't me man. I asked about something else rlated to Indoeuropean words resembling semetic ones, and a nice fellow answered with melqart as his guide:

Originally Posted by Cartaphilus
Malik came from the semitic root mlk and the meaning is obviously king or lord.
In fact the God Melqart would be the King of the City.

[Viking_Wårlord]

that wasn't me man. I asked about something else rlated to Indoeuropean words resembling semetic ones, and a nice fellow answered with melqart as his guide:

ok,then i have a question that my studies did not solve,I studied the Basque language for a long time and I wanted to if the word ezker was linked to Spanish izquierda,co's it's so similar and because I didn't get the time to check.

[Viking_Wårlord]

ok,then i have a question that my studies did not solve,I studied the Basque language for a long time and I wanted to if the word ezker was linked to Spanish izquierda,co's it's so similar and because I didn't get the time to check.

I found it!....on...wikipedia!(crap,i must be blind then!)they say
"The Romance languages of Gascon, Aragonese, and Spanish display marked Basque influence, as a result of substratum, language contact, and bilingualism. A notable example is that of the Pyrenean and Iberian Romance words for "left (side)" (izquierdo, esquerdo, esquerre, quer, esquer) derived from Basque ezker[15] to avoid the ominous connotations of Latin sinister."

How could I not've spotted this?

[gamegeek2]

"Allah" was formed from the gemination of the "l"s in al-ilah, "the god." The semitic root would be ylh or lh.

In Semitic languages, there is a system of roots which can be used to form new words, this has been happening for a long time. Foreign words are easily incorporated with this system. Take the root k-t-b, which conveys the idea of writing. A very small sample of the many words in Arabic that are derived from this root.

kitab - book
kātib - writer (m)
kataba - to write
kutayyib - booklet
takātaba - to correspond
maktab - office
maktaba - library
miktāb - typewriter
maktūb - written

And a small sample of the Hebrew words derived from the same k-t-b root.

katab - reporter (m)
ktib - spelling
katub - written
ktab - handwriting

It is even seen in Maltese, the only Semtic language to use the Latin Alphabet as the primary alphabet

ktieb - book
kittieb - writer
miktub - written

A good EB example is the root q-d-$, meaning "holy/sacred." In Punic, "sh" becomes "s," so we have HaParasim HaQdosim (Sacred Band Cavalry). The same root is seen in Hebrew "Miqdash," as in HaBeit HaMiqdash, which literally translates as "The House [of] The Temple." Notice the pattern of adding "mi" or "ma" to the front of a root to get a building/object from an idea.

So we have the root s-g-d, "worship, bow." By adding "ma-" to the front we get Aramaic "Masgid," "place of worship," and Arabic "Masjid," meaning "mosque," most likely derived from an Aramaic dialect, likely Nabataean. And d-r-s, the root for "learn" is seen in Arabic "madrasa," "school."