Linguistics discussion (split from new factions thread)

**Elmetiacos** · 02-27-2009, 20:34

...or part of a Tyrrhenian family with Lemnaic and possibly Rhaetic, but nobody speaks Etruscan anymore.

**Subotan** · 02-27-2009, 20:51

Nice. What are the roots of the Tyrrhenian family?

**Elmetiacos** · 02-27-2009, 20:56

Don't know much about it; it's based on similarities between what's written the Lemnos stele and some Etruscan words. Some people include Rhaetic in the group as well, but others think that Rhaetic is IE. There are other rumours of languages spoken in Greece before Greek ("Pelasgian") which could belong as well.

**gamegeek2** · 03-06-2009, 04:58

(NOTE - " ' " is written in place of the glottal stop, ʔ, to make it easier to read. Trust me, this is much easier to read than the original version.)

Howis 'ekwoses-kwe

Howis, kwesio wulneħ ne 'est, 'ekwoms speket, 'oinom krhum wogʰom wegʰontm, hoinom-kwe megehm bʰerom, hoinom-kwe dʰ'gʰmonm 'o'ku bʰerontm. Howis nu 'ekwobʰjos wewkwet: "Kard ħegʰnutoi moi, 'ekwoms ħegontm wi'rom widntei." 'ekwōs tu wewkwont: "Kludʰi, howi, kardes ħegʰuntoi nsmei widntbʰjos: ħner, poris, howjom-r wulneħm swebʰi kʰermom westrom kwrneuti. Howjom-kwe wulneħ ne 'esti." To kekluwos howis ħegrom bʰuget.

The Sheep and the Horses

A sheep, who had no wool, saw horses, one pulling a heavy wagon, one carrying a big load, and one carrying a man quickly. The sheep said to the horses: "My heart pains me, seeing a man driving horses." The horses said: "Listen, sheep, our hearts pain us when we see this: a man, the master, makes the wool of the sheep into a warm garment for himself. And the sheep has no wool". Having heard this, the sheep fled into the plain.

**Elmetiacos** · 03-06-2009, 15:50

I've read that before. Sometimes I think our ancestors must have gone around with really bad sore throats.

**Ibrahim** · 03-06-2009, 22:28

Originally Posted by Elmetiacos

I've read that before. Sometimes I think our ancestors must have gone around with really bad sore throats.

yeah, true that.

but does anyone here bow what those wierd sounds are (the kw, bw, and gw are about?

and is that crossed h like an arabic ha' sound? (like a really think h I guess is the best way to put it)

**bovi** · 03-07-2009, 09:12

As far as I can remember there are three different H's in Arabic: the guttural, the short (like latin H) and the "breathing" one? It's been 10 years since I learned the tiny bit I know though.