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    “We have shared our daily life with two US units for quite a while - they are the first and fourth companies of a prestigious infantry battalion whose name I will withhold for the sake of military secrecy. To the common man it is a unit just like any other. But we live with them and got to know them, and we henceforth know that we have the honor to live with one of the most renowned units of the US Army - one that the movies brought to the public as series showing “ordinary soldiers thrust into extraordinary events”. Who are they, those soldiers from abroad, how is their daily life, and what support do they bring to the men of our OMLT every day? Few of them belong to the Easy Company, the one the TV series focuses on. This one nowadays is named Echo Company, and it has become the support company.

    They have a terribly strong American accent - from our point of view the language they speak is not even English. How many times did I have to write down what I wanted to say rather than waste precious minutes trying various pronunciations of a seemingly common word? Whatever state they are from, no two accents are alike and they even admit that in some crisis situations they have difficulties understanding each other.

    Heavily built, fed at the earliest age with Gatorade, proteins and creatine - they are all heads and shoulders taller than us and their muscles remind us of Rambo. Our frames are amusingly skinny to them - we are wimps, even the strongest of us - and because of that they often mistake us for Afghans.

    Here we discover America as it is often depicted : their values are taken to their paroxysm, often amplified by promiscuity lack of privacy and the loneliness of this outpost in the middle of that Afghan valley. Honor, motherland - everything here reminds of that : the American flag floating in the wind above the outpost, just like the one on the post parcels. Even if recruits often originate from the hearth of American cities and gang territory, no one here has any goal other than to hold high and proud the star spangled banner. Each man knows he can count on the support of a whole people who provides them through the mail all that an American could miss in such a remote front-line location : books, chewing gums, razorblades, Gatorade, toothpaste etc. in such way that every man is aware of how much the American people backs him in his difficult mission. And that is a first shock to our preconceptions : the American soldier is no individualist. The team, the group, the combat team are the focus of all his attention.

    And they are impressive warriors! We have not come across bad ones, as strange at it may seem to you when you know how critical French people can be. Even if some of them are a bit on the heavy side, all of them provide us everyday with lessons in infantry know-how. Beyond the wearing of a combat kit that never seem to discomfort them (helmet strap, helmet, combat goggles, rifles etc.) the long hours of watch at the outpost never seem to annoy them in the slightest. On the one square meter wooden tower above the perimeter wall they stand the five consecutive hours in full battle rattle and night vision goggles on top, their sight unmoving in the directions of likely danger. No distractions, no pauses, they are like statues nights and days. At night, all movements are performed in the dark - only a handful of subdued red lights indicate the occasional presence of a soldier on the move. Same with the vehicles whose lights are covered - everything happens in pitch dark even filling the fuel tanks with the Japy (JP-8) pump.

    And combat? If you have seen Rambo you have seen it all - always coming to the rescue when one of our teams gets in trouble, and always in the shortest delay. That is one of their tricks : they switch from T-shirt and sandals to combat ready in three minutes. Arriving in contact with the enemy, the way they fight is simple and disconcerting : they just charge! They disembark and assault in stride, they bomb first and ask questions later - which cuts any pussyfooting short.

    We seldom hear any harsh word, and from 5 AM onwards the camp chores are performed in beautiful order and always with excellent spirit. A passing American helicopter stops near a stranded vehicle just to check that everything is alright; an American combat team will rush to support ours before even knowing how dangerous the mission is - from what we have been given to witness, the American soldier is a beautiful and worthy heir to those who liberated France and Europe.

    To those who bestow us with the honor of sharing their combat outposts and who everyday give proof of their military excellence, to those who pay the daily tribute of America’s army’s deployment on Afghan soil, to those we owned this article, ourselves hoping that we will always remain worthy of them and to always continue hearing them say that we are all the same band of brothers”.



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    an American combat team will rush to support ours before even knowing how dangerous the mission is - from what we have been given to witness, the American soldier is a beautiful and worthy heir to those who liberated France and Europe.

    Amen to that!
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    Who cares about the voice of a french soldier anyway ? We all know they're cheese eating surrendering monkeys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    Who cares about the voice of a french soldier anyway ? We all know they're cheese eating surrendering monkeys
    I really wouldn't call that stuff cheese

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    Who cares about the voice of a french soldier anyway ? We all know they're cheese eating surrendering monkeys
    Ah hah! Finally an admission from a Frenchman! (you should also notice how I used a capitol "F" )

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    Damn. I hate to use the word "heartwarming" -- it feels almost cliche -- but it feels appropriate in this case. That article brought a smile to my face like no other has in some while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martok View Post
    Damn. I hate to use the word "heartwarming" -- it feels almost cliche -- but it feels appropriate in this case. That article brought a smile to my face like no other has in some while.
    Agreed. I had a strange burning in my eyes when I read it. I'm not sure why, maybe someone popped a tear gas canister nearby or something.


    Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
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    That's a nice article.

    I wonder how you came about it?
    Has your Francophilia gotten you to read French blogs? I note that even your YouTube is French nowadays. Aaahh...the sweet, tempting lure of 'la douce France'...

    Heavily built, fed at the earliest age with Gatorade, proteins and creatine - they are all heads and shoulders taller than us and their muscles remind us of Rambo. Our frames are amusingly skinny to them - we are wimps, even the strongest of us - and because of that they often mistake us for Afghans.
    I'll never get used to this. Americans are so bulky.

    There are obese people in France. There are muscular men in France. But what is distincly American, is that odd combination between the two. Fit young men weighing twice as much as I. Always in their baggy clothes, impossible to tell whether fat or muscle is hidden beneath the huge clothes they wear. It's only the men. The women are normal. Americans remind me of elephant seals on South Georgia. There too, the males are twice as large as the females. And as with Americans, one will quickly regret confusing bulk with 'slow and fat'.

    To think some of them fight live grizzly bears for sports!


    Ici on découvre l’Amérique, comme souvent elle est dépeinte : les valeurs qui sont les leurs sont ici portées à leur paroxysme, amplifiées par la promiscuité et la solitude du poste au milieu de cette vallée Afghane. Honneur, Patrie.

    [Here we discover America as it is often depicted : their values are taken to their paroxysm, often amplified by promiscuity lack of privacy and the loneliness of this outpost in the middle of that Afghan valley. Honor, motherland - everything here reminds of that: the American flag floating in the wind above the outpost, just like the one on the post parcels.]
    I can't help but be reminded of 'arrse', that British armypedia. Even in the - rather crude - translation above, the difference in language, refined observations, and manners is striking.
    The English gentleman is still an example to the world. But beyond that, I do wonder whether my shock was owing to my lack of experience with 'barrack language', or owing to different cultural expectations. Brenus will have to enlighten me about French army standards.


    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    Who cares about the voice of a french soldier anyway ? We all know they're cheese eating surrendering monkeys
    a) Yes, I know. b) It already belongs to a different world. It's history, where it belongs. Why care about the old?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    I'll never get used to this. Americans are so bulky.
    Haven't been to the US yet, but I've been surprised by the size of the average Canadian student. They're indeed bulky. Most of them have arms larger than my legs ;-( Too bad they can't dress properly (ie. not like a 16 years old baseball player when they're 25).

    a) Yes, I know. b) It already belongs to a different world. It's history, where it belongs. Why care about the old?
    It just reminded me of the good old times, when every topic in the backroom was about how France is bad, how France did that, how France did this. I wasn't trying to bash anyone or anything like that.

    So here I go for my serious and pointless comment :
    "I don't have much respect for the current French military, nor for any other military actually, but glad to see that French and American soldiers can get along pretty well despite what have happened in the last few years".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    That's a nice article.

    I wonder how you came about it?
    Has your Francophilia gotten you to read French blogs? I note that even your YouTube is French nowadays. Aaahh...the sweet, tempting lure of 'la douce France'...
    I've already told you of my backroom epiphany. Maybe my biggest problems were with de Gaulleism (which in the proper context, I agree with) and Parisians (who seem to share many traits with New Yorkers); education changes perceptions, so does fighting alongside someone. Besides, without French influence Belgian beer wouldn’t be nearly as good as it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    It just reminded me of the good old times, when every topic in the backroom was about how France is bad, how France did that, how France did this. I wasn't trying to bash anyone or anything like that.
    Oh but they still are here my friend. However, eventually one discovers that it is best not to criticize someone for being arrogant and rude by being arrogant and rude.
    Last edited by Vladimir; 11-28-2008 at 19:35.


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    How do you motivate your employees? Waterboarding, of course.
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    Down with dried flowers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    It just reminded me of the good old times, when every topic in the backroom was about how France is bad, how France did that, how France did this. I wasn't trying to bash anyone or anything like that.
    I don't mind you being angry about it. You are, for a start, absolutely right. But, and this is my usual consideration, is it the whole story?

    What was written on French forums in 2004? Was it not a mirror image? Anti-Gallicism and anti-Americanism of this period were quite alike. A political decision, reduced to an innate moral deficit of an entire people, this is how the mutual political decisions to go or not to go into 'Iraq' were described. Ignorant, fat and trigger-happy. That is what Americans were described as. And this is what apparently caused them to attack Iraq. Just as being a cheese eating surrender monkey is what made France decide not to join.

    But what is written on forums, I don't care about.

    The shock was that the US and UK governments, amidst all their other lying and spinning, played the francophobe card. ('Surely we are not wimpy French? We are at war, people! A war on terror! Unlike the surrender monkeys, we do attack when under imminent threat from Iraq')
    This was an outrage.

    However, I will not have a holier than thou attitude about it. Firstly, that tends to bounce back at you at some point. Secondly, no French government ever played the anglophobe card?



    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    eventually one discovers that it is best not to criticize someone for being arrogant and rude by being arrogant and rude.
    But...I love arrogant and rude! (And even more so in women )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    I don't have much respect for the current French military
    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus
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    Which reminds me of Dans la Tête.
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