Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
Self-denial is an identity as well, see Luigi's post on page two.
Once again, what is this 'self' you are talking about? Does it encompass only the supposed 'heroic' past or also the greed, cruelty and stupidity that were part of Dutch history?

National identity is a catch-phrase that never passes a reality test. To me, nationhood is defined by the laws and institutions of a nation, not by a supposed national identity. I'm a Renaniste, as Luigi will immediately recognise.