A funny thing happened on the way to the gulag

[HoreTore]

but he was in possession of internal Government documents and if he paid for them like the Police are claiming he’s broken the law and should be arrested.

BAH!

He should be recompensated for the money.

[Fragony]

Oh crap just made a thread about this. Completely natural development, cows eat grass, water is wet, and lefties become totalitarian when in charge that is just the way of things.

[LittleGrizzly]

and lefties become totalitarian when in charge that is just the way of things.

i would like to point out we are talking about new labour, not the left....

If it is infact a crime then the police or the goverment aren't technically doing anything wrong, that being said im usually happy for the goverment to leak documents, its nice to know what they don't want us to know.... is this to do with the vat rise in 2011/2012 ?

im also wondering why they used counter terrorism police though ?

[Fragony]

New Labour is working very hard indeed. May not be lefties fiscally but they leave a slimy trail wherever they go when it comes to unlimmeted immigration. Why do you think they used an anti-terrorist team by the way?

1 That man is really dangerous.
2 Pure intimidation of the opposition.

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[KarlXII]

"All lefties turn into totalarians"

"We're talking about New Labour"

"OH OK OK SORRY BUT STILL LEFTIES ARE TEH SUCK"

[Rhyfelwyr]

New Labour are not left-wing by any stretch of the imagination.

Also Fragony unrestricted immigration is much more a free-market thing. New Labour allow it because they are for the moment on the new right, much as the Conservatives.

I know there's a fascination amongst the liberal left with multiculturalism just for the sake of it, but in reality it comes about more as a result of small government ideology.

[CountArach]

"All lefties turn into totalarians"

"We're talking about New Labour"

"OH OK OK SORRY BUT STILL LEFTIES ARE TEH SUCK"

QFT.

[JAG]

Not to ruin a great story and the moral damnation on the Labour party by, ahem, certain people but... Labour have said they had no idea the arrest was going to be made but moreover the police have stated that they did not inform any ministers....

So...

What we have here is not a chance to bash Labour for the arresting of the opposition, you have a legitimate reason to bash Labour for supporting and introducing the draconian anti-terror laws, which the police used in this case. They used anti-terror laws unilaterally to arrest a sitting MP for doing nothing wrong. I mean, THAT is the story. And it is disgusting. I opposed the crazy laws at the time, with this kind of thing being part of the argument against the laws. Ah well... But it would ruin the great story some people here want to make, rather than the legitimate one right in front of their eyes.

Plus it is not a 'left' thing to be draconian I don't think you would call the government of the US 'left' over the last 8 years, nor multiple other countries which have introduced similar 'anti-terror' laws... But again, let's not get in the way of some people's pre-loaded opinions. :)

[Fragony]

QFT.

Compared to you guys it isn't very leftist indeed but we hold other standards.

[Husar]

Soon the counter-terrorism officers will go after pirates, no not the ones in Somalia, the software pirrorists and then the uhm, thieves...no wait, they could get hurt if they fall during a chase...

Seriously, if he really, like in real life, illegally bought some documents, he should get arrested, but the counter-terrorism officers thing sounds weird, maybe they just work in two departments and the news kind of mixed that up or something?

[LittleGrizzly]

New Labour is working very hard indeed.

There's always something to be said for lazy slackers! Grizzly for pm!

May not be lefties fiscally but they leave a slimy trail wherever they go when it comes to unlimmeted immigration.

I think the torys have made one or two noises on the issue but i doubt tory immigration policy is much different (i don't think it is) especially after the last few elections were late on the decided to go after immigrants (election stratergy not actual chasing) and it played out badly for them

Why do you think they used an anti-terrorist team by the way?

1 That man is really dangerous.
2 Pure intimidation of the opposition.

2 or what moody said earlier about to do with espionage

Thinking on it though, according to the aticle the goverment made the complaint to the police, and then the police acted on it, so wouldn't the use of counter terrorism officers be done to the police force ?

or was there some goverment figure actually directing the police actions, becase that is very wrong, and i don't think allowed...

If the police force carried out this action after receiving a complaint from the goverment then its the police force messing up, counter terrorism police should be used strictly in terrorism situations, buying leaked goverment documents are not anywhere near what most people would think of as terrorism...

It somewhat reminds me of the labour member who was protesting at the party conference a few years back and was removed using terrorism legislation....

[InsaneApache]

OT but I'll bite....

It somewhat reminds me of the labour member who was protesting at the party conference a few years back and was removed using terrorism legislation....

...and the couple who were followed and bugged because the local council didn't believe they lived where they say they did...

The bloke who was dragged in front of the magistrates for putting his bin out a day early...

Or the woman who was fined for putting too much rubbish in her bin...

Terrorists one and all, they should have been put up against a wall...etc etc

Back OT..

I'm with David Davis here, this smacks of judicial intimidation. Now I don't know about you folks but I don't want to live in a country that threatens members of the opposition in order to shut them up because they have disclosed things that embarress the government. That's not democracy.