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    Default Re: Units: speculation, rumor, slander and silliness

    Generic "Indian" units:


    Warrior (focus melee) with a bow
    Skirmisher with Bow
    Skirmisher with Musket
    Elite Skirmisher with Bow
    Elite Skirmisher with Musket


    @Fisherking

    While I appreciate your efforts for the Native Americans, you portray quite an one-sided picture of the situation. Comments like are sadly far from true for this timeframe:
    It was pretty much the other way around. The Europeans were in much more danger of being wiped out by the Tribes. That is why the English did so much to cultivate friendship with the Iroquois. They had already fought the French to a standstill and wiped out several of their allied Tribes. The English were close to loosing the French and Indian War until they got the Iroquois to enter the war on their side.
    At that time the European settlers in Britsh North America were roughly short of a million, controlling large swaths of lands conquered from destroyed/drive out tribes. New French was populated just by 50000. The Iroquois were important, adding a rather large amount of capable warriors and scouts, but certainly not a decisive one.


    It was a different Theater with different tactics needed because of the environment. Diplomacy , Trade, and Gifts were the keys to keeping the Tribes on your side, and without their aid you just were not going to succeed. Indian Wars usually lasted until the Europeans could manage a peace agreement and never hurt the Indians that much until after the American Revolution. At best they ended in a draw.
    Saying that the wars against the Europeans did not hurt much is quite a thing to say, considering all the land lost and all the vanished tribes already around 1750. A terrible "draw" for many Indian tribes indeed...
    Last edited by Oleander Ardens; 12-03-2008 at 21:50.
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