The UK system works...
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Clearly people feel that the court punishment - if ever meted out - isn't good enough. If law isn't believed in, one of the planks of society is rotten.
Re: Eye for an Eye - A discussion
The UK system works...
Link
Clearly people feel that the court punishment - if ever meted out - isn't good enough. If law isn't believed in, one of the planks of society is rotten.
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Re: Eye for an Eye - A discussion
i see that link also tells us how other crimes gone up instead and yes by courts i ment sentence lengths and yes this 'plank of society' is rotten, law is only belived in to a certain extent here, to me it's more a circus, wouldnt, havent you heard stories of late where various people have been allowed out of jail after murder because they dont have enough room to fit them in, disgusting, there just as likely to re offend, trash like that should be put to sleep and killed like a dogOriginally Posted by rory_20_uk
The UK system works...
Link
Clearly people feel that the court punishment - if ever meted out - isn't good enough. If law isn't believed in, one of the planks of society is rotten.
Last edited by Thermal; 11-28-2008 at 23:50.
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... Makes the whole world blind.
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
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Re: Eye for an Eye - A discussion
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.... Makes the whole world blind.
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Have you just been dumped?
I ask because it's usually something like that which causes outbursts like this, needless to say I dissagree completely.
Re: Eye for an Eye - A discussion
And Triffids.In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
Re: Eye for an Eye - A discussion
“if laws were incredibly hard on those that commit serious crimes, you mark my words, crimes and murders would plummet,”: as proved during the Middle Ages when Crimes rates was so low. Oops, no.
You have to know one or two things: Punishment is not a deterrent, and never was.
Two main reasons:
I planned to commit a crime, so I planned to fool the police and to escape from the punishment. Nobody knowing he will be caught commit a crime or offence. If you over speed it is because you think there are no speed camera at this spot, or no police officer.
A crime committed under influence, hunger or other strong feelings are not under hard penalties.
To make things simple:
To kill your wife and her lover you find in bed is not a cold blood murder.You would kill then without thinking of the consequences, so hard punishment prospects didn’t stop you in doing it.
If you plan to kill my wife and her lover later on, you will produce/imagine a plan to avoid to be caught. And you think you will be better than the Police.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
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Re: Eye for an Eye - A discussion
The majority of serious crime is highly motivated so punishments aren't too much of a deterrent, the majority of criminals think they will not get caught anyway, the only place a majorly harsh penalty would work are petty crimes where there isn't much motivation... but in that case the penalty would be far too harsh to fit the crime...
So very harsh sentencing won't make much difference...
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Re: Eye for an Eye - A discussion
were not living in the middle ages, times move on, when people know theres such a large punishment for serious crimes, there are those that would think twice before offending, unless there just true nutcases, we have media and the like now, these changes in law wouldnt be as well known in the middle ages aswell as behavioral changes as a whole in society
Last edited by Thermal; 11-29-2008 at 15:21.
Re: Eye for an Eye - A discussion
Bit of salt water and they're sent off. Not much of a problem really.And Triffids.
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