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    Riders are the shock section of your steppe army. Apart from their lances and their armour, they are not distinct from your Horse Archers, being able to shoot and skirmish like them. To make up for these advantages, they are expensive.

    Which means that they will always fill a niche role in your army, composed by a bulk of steppe horse archers. As I said, they might be necessary once facing massed formations of heavy cavalry and infantry, where their shock power can be a deciding factor. Other than that, you should stick with noble or line HA's.

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    I love the steppe riders. With just 5 of these guys, I can decimate any army. Their shock value is the key to victory with these guys.

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    Well ok but it seemed like they had a little more range than normal ha's, but i'm talking about 20m so it's realy not that important.anyway they to require quite a bit of micromanaging due to their armour "lack" if i use'em as shok cavalry. (just to make shure i know shock cavalry is cavalry u use just for charges right?)
    And would anyone give me a desription of pahlava armoured cavalry eg armoured ha's and kata's? please
    oh and thx all for the reply's they're always very helpful


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    Armoured horse-archers are true kings of the battlefield, butchers, for the ennemies and for your coffers. Pathian cats and noble cats I never used much (but I face many of them in my current Getai campaign, hard nuts to crack, inflicting tremendous losses charging even veteran heavy infantery I field).

    Grivpanvars are bulldozers, very sexy but cost a tremendous lot.
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    Well after 5 days or so of tests over tests i am now with pahlava again and have new and improved questiones!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Starting with the reformed government, i read i guide in the AAR section of the forum on this subject but it only had one post and no replys so it really wasn't that clear, how do i get it?
    When fighting in woods i'm havig huge problems micro managing my horse-archers due to 1 sucky visibility,2 units can't charge properly or at least no effectively and 3 it seems archers in general have a hard time aiming (or is it just bad luck?)
    What strategys do vets use in woods?
    How do i know if a region has hidden resources in it? meanig that weird government thing?
    that's all for now folks!


    Italians do it better! Chi dice donna dice guai. Abbi donna di te minore, se vuoi essere signore. Donne e buoi dei paesi tuoi. Fiume, grondaia e donna parlatora mandano l'uomo di casa fuora.
    And my personal favorite: "Non rimuovere il confine antico fissato dai tuoi padri". In english: "Do not remove the anchent border placed by your fathers". It looses something in the translation......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    Well after 5 days or so of tests over tests i am now with pahlava again and have new and improved questiones!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Starting with the reformed government, i read i guide in the AAR section of the forum on this subject but it only had one post and no replys so it really wasn't that clear, how do i get it?
    When fighting in woods i'm havig huge problems micro managing my horse-archers due to 1 sucky visibility,2 units can't charge properly or at least no effectively and 3 it seems archers in general have a hard time aiming (or is it just bad luck?)
    What strategys do vets use in woods?
    How do i know if a region has hidden resources in it? meanig that weird government thing?
    that's all for now folks!
    Guide to fighting in woods: Don't. Dense forests are not where you want to be fighting. You want plains and steppes, or an enemy city. The point of a cavalry nomad army is that you get to choose where you want to fight - send an expedition deep into enemy territory, kill a few single-unit stacks or something, distract them, bleed them, and then when they least expect it show up with a large cavalry army out of nowhere right outside one of their cities.

    Funnily enough, you want to fight the same place a successor army wants to fight: a flat plain. And speaking as a fellow Pahlava player who just massacred a steppe army on a flat plain, I can confidently say that you have the better army for it.

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    Yeah i know..... problem being that AS beseiged the town north of hekatompylos, the one south of the sea and i had a ha army going south to take susa so i turned around and attacked them but the map is an incredibly,remarcably dense forest wich i thought did not exist in the area due to heavy salt levels in the sea.... or something like that. So i cant avoid the battle ,any suggestions?


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    And my personal favorite: "Non rimuovere il confine antico fissato dai tuoi padri". In english: "Do not remove the anchent border placed by your fathers". It looses something in the translation......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    Well after 5 days or so of tests over tests i am now with pahlava again and have new and improved questiones!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Starting with the reformed government, i read i guide in the AAR section of the forum on this subject but it only had one post and no replys so it really wasn't that clear, how do i get it?

    Here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=97902


    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    When fighting in woods i'm havig huge problems micro managing my horse-archers due to 1 sucky visibility,2 units can't charge properly or at least no effectively and 3 it seems archers in general have a hard time aiming (or is it just bad luck?)
    What strategys do vets use in woods?
    Don't fight in woods, for Ahura Mazda's Sake!Be agressive, chose your battlefields. Bypass Assak (is it Asaak?) and head for Hecatompylos , there are good battlefields for horse archers there and once you bled the AS a few dozen times Assak will lean undefended and ready to fall in the hands of a second-line army.
    Edit: it must be Zadrakata, so head for Apameia

    Reforms will give you a much better economy along with a few but precious units, like Grivpanvar and Hoplitaï.
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    ok but as i already posted i can't avoid it.....
    thx for the rest though


    Italians do it better! Chi dice donna dice guai. Abbi donna di te minore, se vuoi essere signore. Donne e buoi dei paesi tuoi. Fiume, grondaia e donna parlatora mandano l'uomo di casa fuora.
    And my personal favorite: "Non rimuovere il confine antico fissato dai tuoi padri". In english: "Do not remove the anchent border placed by your fathers". It looses something in the translation......

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