here's something for you to think about EVERYONE : marijuana / cannabis bind to naturally occurring receptors in our brain, which have no other purpose discovered thus far except to cause what we know to happen from THC! our brain has evolved to purposely have the reaction caused in combination with pot... why would this be? is it by God then, as all things meted out by the creator? my own spirituality doesn't allow for a God not having something God doesn't want...
Sniffing house hold cleaners also cause chemicals to bond to your neurotransmitters...causing epic highness
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind...but there is one thing that science cannot accept - and that is a personal God who meddles in the affairs of his creation."
-Albert Einstein
Sniffing house hold cleaners also cause chemicals to bond to your neurotransmitters...causing epic highness
while you may have a point, misguided as it is and quite unadvisable- that is completely unrelated to what i am talking about... the amazing nature of neurotransmitters we might both agree on. 'huffing' is dumb because cutting off oxygen to your brain has nothing to do with self-medication. i bet you get really high before you die from poison as well, but it's not smart and certainly not painless. the body produces pain-killing neurotransmitters to help you deal with those toxins and hopefully survive, so if you're purposely putting poison into your body, like house hold cleaners, you're missing out on a much less harmful and more enjoyable 'high' which the ancients obviously knew of quite well.
that isn't a similar comparison because if you do some research, 'huffing' causes different receptors to react which have other explainable reasons to exist in the human body. the unique thing about THC is that we have NOT found a reason for that to exist in the body otherwise. it might be true that it is related to 'relaxation' and 'mood' but we know so little about it compared to other drugs and such that it is much different than others in that it is thus far unexplainable to why it would exist except what we know to happen from THC. for example, we know that stimulants such as Cocaine cause many / all the primary neurotransmitters to react like Norepenephrine, Dopamine, Serotonin : 'fight or flight' in its highest form, literally... Hallucinogens cause specific serotonin reactions related to sleep and dreams, closely related to anti-depressant medication like Prozac concerning mood, while alcohol and opiates work on the primary reward system, dopamine. Norepenephrine is interesting because it is related to our locomotive function, directly tied to 'fight or flight' and endurance, appetite suppressant / helps the body break down food to use for energy, stay awake, ect, generally 'speedy' effects.... just as it sounds, adrenaline and norepenephrine are a part of the same stuff... just to be on topic for EB, any berserkr / naked fanatic if 'on drugs' is going to be on a drug stimulating their norepenephrine... people naturally stimulate it with exercise and meditation without drugs... one more little note, they have done experiments with dopamine and reward systems and people who have their dopamine supressed with drugs for the test, actually don't even enjoy listening to their favorite music while having their dopamine suppressed! this is pretty good evidence imo, that our whole concept of life and enjoyment / perception is tied to the chemical reaction, which we normally think so little about. this is why depleting those neuron stems through over-indulgence can lead to depression so easily... of course, this is completely legal in the form of alcohol.
BUZZED is actually a really cool and informative book on different drugs that is easy to read and yet has accurate scientific information. it actually makes no judgment calls, and i've heard policemen recommend it because it says how messed up drugs are (in their opinon) but in my experience it actually promotes the fact that most drugs are just used incorrectly, such as when someone doesn't EAT or SLEEP and then dies - what a WONDER! the drug didn't do that... that can be done without drugs and is stupid regardless. someone who exercises non-stop without drinking any water will eventually die also. anyways, it's good to know the facts.
OT rant on legal heart-damage inducing US drugs that the govt condones because they do not release any 'happy' neurotransmitters:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
the sad thing about US drug policy is that ephedrine was a legal drug which can be abused to give heart damage (and did for a long time!) and all the negative side effects of norepenephrine abuse, this was sold with caffeine products over the counter! and this was ok to the US government, because nobody got 'high'. so the only thing we're concerned about in the USA, is if our slaves are too 'content' and 'alleviated' they might get some self-awareness. that is sad. so instead, we must keep all the hard-working people down and miserable so they do not see light or have hope so they can 'bail out' all those poor capitalists who don't want anybody to do something they don't agree with, since they like their booze, their pappa taught them that... they don't need to 'escape' reality with those non-alcoholic substances... alcohol has been so proven to be harmless and healthy- oh wait. NOT!
(obviously I am not happy about being 'straight' and 'sober' which is the what i am and that is what the government wants [minus sober], but yet the people of the USA and world speak differently, purchasing and growing the plant and product and practicing free will as they please, regardless, just like in 'prohibition') viva la revolution!
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Chewing coca leaves in its native form also makes you high, as opposed to the dangerous refined cocaine.
Same goes for marjiuana...one of these days, a drug dealer will distill an ultra potent form that will actually be harmful.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind...but there is one thing that science cannot accept - and that is a personal God who meddles in the affairs of his creation."
-Albert Einstein
Marijuana, by definition, is the dried female flowering tops and (optionally) leaves of the cannabis plant. Any distilled extract of the above would no longer be marijuana, so a "drug dealer" cannot "distill" an ultra-potent form "that would actually be harmful" and still have it recognized as marijuana. So, if you do the "hash" or "honey oil" of uncertain origin and it proves to be a harmful distillate of cannabis, it's your own damn fault and you should have stuck to the natural stuff i.e. the substance that we recognize as marijuana (you know, the stuff that hasn't changed that much since the time of the recent Yuezhi find that this thread is about.)
Marijuana, by definition, is the dried female flowering tops and (optionally) leaves of the cannabis plant. Any distilled extract of the above would no longer be marijuana, so a "drug dealer" cannot "distill" an ultra-potent form "that would actually be harmful" and still have it recognized as marijuana. So, if you do the "hash" or "honey oil" of uncertain origin and it proves to be a harmful distillate of cannabis, it's your own damn fault and you should have stuck to the natural stuff i.e. the substance that we recognize as marijuana (you know, the stuff that hasn't changed that much since the time of the recent Yuezhi find that this thread is about.)
Amen keep it natural indeed!
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Marijuana, by definition, is the dried female flowering tops and (optionally) leaves of the cannabis plant. Any distilled extract of the above would no longer be marijuana, so a "drug dealer" cannot "distill" an ultra-potent form "that would actually be harmful" and still have it recognized as marijuana. So, if you do the "hash" or "honey oil" of uncertain origin and it proves to be a harmful distillate of cannabis, it's your own damn fault and you should have stuck to the natural stuff i.e. the substance that we recognize as marijuana (you know, the stuff that hasn't changed that much since the time of the recent Yuezhi find that this thread is about.)
I know dude. But if they turned coca leaves into cocaine, then they will eventually do it to marijuana. For some, getting high from the natural stuff just isn't high enough.
Last edited by Intranetusa; 12-05-2008 at 19:51.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind...but there is one thing that science cannot accept - and that is a personal God who meddles in the affairs of his creation."
-Albert Einstein
I know dude. But if they turned coca leaves into cocaine, then they will eventually do it to marijuana. For some, getting high from the natural stuff just isn't high enough.
Yeah, I hear ya. The pharmaceutical companies have already done it, except they went the route of synthesizing the "active ingredient" Δ9THC (which is not the only active ingredient, but profiteering drug companies are immensely short-sighted), and it's horrible stuff, not a pleasant feeling at all. I'll bet it probably can cause psychiatric harm. I can't say for sure, but I'm betting that all the bogus "research" out there about how marijuana is "dangerous" is done by testing the effects of THC isolates instead of the natural stuff.
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