Koinon Hellenon Generals Are Lame

[mcantu]

what difficulty level do you play on?

to protect the general during cav charges, hit the 'f' key just before his unit reaches the enemy. he will stop to the horn-blowing/rally thing while the rest of the unit charges in...

[Ca Putt]

ah, that's why my generals live rather long and i only have few who die in battle rather than rotting in some boring city^^. I usually do that because ... well because I like o do so :D

and putting them on walls is not all bad:
1. in contrast to cav generals they CAN stand on walls^^
2. if you deploy them right they can be kept away from action rather long- if you deploy the unit left of the ladder/seige tower.

appart from that, at least they tend to die with dignity and don't flee only armed with the warchest^^

[Cullhwch]

The AIGeneral trait gives the AI FMs insane bonuses to hitpoints, command, etc. Nerfing it would prevent this sort of thing from happening.

[Conqueror]

The AIGeneral trait gives the AI FMs insane bonuses to hitpoints, command, etc. Nerfing it would prevent this sort of thing from happening.

That would also make it too easy to murder them with slingers.

[Cullhwch]

No, it still takes FOREVER to kill generals with iaosatae.

[tapanojum]

what difficulty level do you play on?

to protect the general during cav charges, hit the 'f' key just before his unit reaches the enemy. he will stop to the horn-blowing/rally thing while the rest of the unit charges in...

VH/M.

The FL didn't die from charging the cavalry, but about 1 minute into it, a cavalry's lance just took him out. Freaking Spartans vs Gaul cavalry in closed combat...and they still die? Pathetic!

[mcantu]

the randomness of war...

[Celtic_Punk]

No clue what the hell you're on about buddy. I use my KH general as a linetroop. and they kick ass. Put em on the right side so your general is protected by not only his captain and standardbearer, but the regiment on his left.

"KH generals are lame" LOL they make short work of 90% of the infantry I face with them, and decimate cavalry better than most spearmen. Infact I'd go asfar to say as they are the best hoplites in the west. The only ones better are the spartan bodyguards in the start of the campaign.

[Megas Methuselah]

Yeah, in my first Massalian campaign back in 1.0, my KH bodyguards did fine. No generals dying prematurely, even though they were always used in the front line.

[tapanojum]

No clue what the hell you're on about buddy. I use my KH general as a linetroop. and they kick ass. Put em on the right side so your general is protected by not only his captain and standardbearer, but the regiment on his left.

"KH generals are lame" LOL they make short work of 90% of the infantry I face with them, and decimate cavalry better than most spearmen. Infact I'd go asfar to say as they are the best hoplites in the west. The only ones better are the spartan bodyguards in the start of the campaign.

Obviously, this thread was made out of annoying anger for the lameness of how unlucky I got to lose both generals, on the very first battle of the campaign.

Yes, Spartans and the Athenian Bodyguard are very sexy and effective. However, in all my campaigns as KH, I lose my general far more frequently in safe situations that I shouldn't.

[Megas Methuselah]

Obviously, this thread was made out of annoying anger for the lameness of how unlucky I got to lose both generals, on the very first battle of the campaign.

Yes, Spartans and the Athenian Bodyguard are very sexy and effective. However, in all my campaigns as KH, I lose my general far more frequently in safe situations that I shouldn't.

Nice. Hey, you wanna play poker?!

[Celtic_Punk]

hehe! I've pulled that on a few unsuspecting fellers.

but yeah, heed my advice, Put that general on the right flank. if you got another one, put him on the left, and guard him with another strong hoplite unit on his left. You will have a solid line. if you have a third general use him as a centrepeice, or a flanking force.

I hardly use cavalry as the KH. And i rarely have problems defeating Makedonian forces.

[Conqueror]

I lose my general far more frequently in safe situations that I shouldn't.

I wouldn't call being in the thick of battle a "safe situation"

Just because you outnumber and outclass the enemy, doesn't mean that your commanding officers can't be KIA when they join the fray. Losing two generals like that in one battle is some very poor luck, but not something that "shouldn't" ever happen.

[Novellus]

I always get annoyed by the KH bodyguards on the field, especially in the opening stages of the campaign against Makadonia. Even after I engulf the flanks of the deuteroi phalangites, they are so slow at killling them off!

[tapanojum]

I wouldn't call being in the thick of battle a "safe situation"

Just because you outnumber and outclass the enemy, doesn't mean that your commanding officers can't be KIA when they join the fray. Losing two generals like that in one battle is some very poor luck, but not something that "shouldn't" ever happen.

Losing your Faction leader while his entire bodyguard is stabbing a bunch of Gallic cavalry with their backs turned to the general except for a couple guys...that Shouldn't happen...maybe I'm just very lucky