The Golden Rule [Concluded]

**ULC** · 12-31-2008, 02:31

Originally Posted by Chaotix27

Well, it seemed clear enough to me that we were running out of time. I think it would make for an extremely boring game if the town sat around and didn't lynch and the mafia sat around and didn't kill. In fact, if the town and mafia aren't trying to kill each other, it doesn't make for much of a game at all.

So I would therefore reason that since the FBI Agent's goal is to get rid of us all, he must have some other method to doing it than killing one of us each night. Perhaps that method is a time limit: some sort of a helicopter raid or something, that would take a certain amount of days to reach the tanker. We need to get rid of the Agent before he can order that attack.

I see YLC as looking for more reasons to stall, and that stands out as scummy to me.

Vote: YLC

Again, I am not drawing the same conclusion you are about our time to catch the FBI agent, that would be very unfair to the town if we had only a mere handful of turns to lynch someone, and it unfairly tips the balance of the game in favor of the FBI agent. Your making snap judgements based on unprovable data, or even nonexistant data.

Your all willing to jump on me for voting no lynch, but in my eyes the FBI agent is not Tevash, and so I went with what I thought was the best option. Were not going to get many clues in this game people, ATPG said so himself, so we can't just go lynch crazy and hope something comes up in the write ups - we have to depend on verbal discussion to win this one, between ourselves.

I am not stalling, that's a ridiculous notion. I advocate the use of the lynch, but I advocate it's use wisely - IMHO we would have gained, if not lost, something if we lynched Tevash, and so I took IMHO, the best course of action.

That said, no one yet has explained the logic behind why I should have voted for Tevash reasonably well yet.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 12-31-2008, 02:46

Apologies for my absence, I've been doing stuff IRL.

Vote: GH

Until I catch up on the thread.

**Beefy187** · 12-31-2008, 02:51

Unvote, Vote: YLC

In normal mafia, towns are lynching someone every night. That is because mafia gets the kill every night, especially when theres more then 2 kills, towns are in deep trouble unless they lynch the scums real quickly.

However this mafia is different from any game I have played in so far. Because no one dies during the night. Well at least so far no one has died. If thats the case then there is nothing which would stop the towns from not lynching anyone for the whole game and the game drags on. Only possible theory that the host can do is invent a role who wins if they survives number of rounds. And ATPG notices us by saying stuff like "time is running out"

It will make sense as we are about to steal the gold bars. And if FBI agent manage to survive until we actually goes for the gold, he can notify the police or what ever which place we are stealing from and can catch us without a warrant.

If we keep up our no lynchs and ends up losing the game then its too late to cry and say we should've done that, we should've started to lynch peoples earlier. True there is no prove that the FBI wins on time limit but its plausible theory. And its probably more likely that its true then its not at this point.

As for lynching Tevash, I'm against it. True that Tevash may be a FBI or a traitor. But if he is a FBI we can sue him for tricking us in to doing bad stuff. And we'll drag him down with us to hell. He could be a traitor like Joker in the opening scene of 'Dark Knights' but from animes or mangas perspective, boss is 95 percent a decent good guy

and is on our side. Boss who betrays their minions does not have honor

Tevash wasn't in risk of getting lynched last night. Ares unvoted and Ares accidentally had two votes on him. So at the end, it was just me I believe.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 12-31-2008, 02:54

Unvote: GH
Vote: Tevash

I'm satisfied with his response to my question, but woad also made a good point against him and I want to hear him respond to that.

**ULC** · 12-31-2008, 03:02

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Unvote: GH
Vote: Tevash

I'm satisfied with his response to my question, but woad also made a good point against him and I want to hear him respond to that.

Are you speaking to me for clarity?

**GeneralHankerchief** · 12-31-2008, 03:03

No. Tevash.

**TevashSzat** · 12-31-2008, 03:22

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Unvote: GH
Vote: Tevash

I'm satisfied with his response to my question, but woad also made a good point against him and I want to hear him respond to that.

I wanted the role mass reveal b/c ATPG often has hints in his writeups. These hints are most likely related to each person's role on the ship. Thus, it would be the best if we know who everyone was beforehand.

That being said, these roles were probably randomly distributed so voting for people due to their role name's mafia like qualities with just ridiculous.

Umm.....can anyone put up a tally?

**ULC** · 12-31-2008, 03:43

Tally
YLC - 3(Woad&Fangs, Chaotix, Khaan)
Yoyoma - 1(Shlin28)
Aries - 1(Yoyoma)
Tevash - 1(GH)

As best as I can tell, that is the current Tally

**Beefy187** · 12-31-2008, 03:54

Ill go back to my original vote

Vote: White_eyes

**Thermal** · 12-31-2008, 04:31

About me voting for quintus last round, i didnt realize reenk broke the tie, regardless in a way its useful having plenty of votes on a person to stop someone doing a last minute change, probably resulting in no lynch, and a likely stronger FBI, i don't think YLC id guilty but i'm usually wrong

vote no lynch
only because i'd be seen suspiciously if i voted for tevash or yoyoma, and there isn't any others i would vote against