The Golden Rule [Concluded]

[Beefy187]

Eagerly waiting for the big finale

[Askthepizzaguy]

The Conclusion


Generalhankerchief invited TevashSzat outside for a victory celebration dinner which he offered to cook. They would drink wine and eat chicken and lamb and pork (as there was no more beefyz) and would tell stories of their glorious victory.

GeneralHankerchief grilled up the chicken and TevashSzat poured the wine and brought out wooden crates to use as a table. Tevash made sure the ship was still on course, and checked the remaining cabins to be sure there was no more surveillance equipment and to make sure all the weapons were accounted for.

GH and Tevash sat down and began to eat their final meal aboard the tanker filled with more gold than one person could ever possibly spend. They shared their opinion about who the real traitor was, and who the FBI agent was. They reached several possible conclusions, but weren't quite sure. In the end, all that mattered was their survival.

Their guns were safely out of reach, and they sat a comfortable distance away from one another. As the conversation wound down, they both seemed to relax. GH opened up his cell phone and made sure that the deal was still going down as planned in Egypt. They were about to enter the Mediterranean Sea, and it was smooth sailing from there.

Tevash began clearing the plates and walked by GeneralHankerchief on the way to the Galley. Suddenly, Tevash took the carving knife and made a swift downward slice towards the good General, who rolled out of the way just in time. He had his combat knife at the ready.

Tevash: "You're no mere computer engineer..."

GeneralHankerchief: "And you're not just the mastermind of our heist. You wanted the gold to yourself all along."

Tevash: "At last we understand each other!!! Die, comrade!"

GeneralHankerchief charged towards TevashSzat, knife at the ready, and swung the blade. Tevash countered with a defensive swipe, and the blades clashed. Several more slashes, and Tevash seemed to have the upper hand. He had the General in a corner, pinning him down, knife closing in on his throat. The General spat in his eye, and kneed him in the groin. Tevash was stunned momentarily, but refused to let go of his killing blade, and moved closer and closer. Another knee to the groin and Tevash winced and flipped backwards towards the guns. GeneralHankerchief flung his blade through the air, and it stuck Tevash in the shoulder. Hardly a killing blow, and Tevash seemed to almost shrug it off, as he grabbed the guns.

GeneralHankerchief dove into the tanker's interior and began to play a most dangerous game with Tevash, looking for the remaining weapons and laying the trap.

Tevash fired his guns as he stomped down the stairs to the lower decks. He stopped and listened for sounds of movement. There was a door slam down the corridor, and Tevash instinctively knew it was a trap. The General was far too clever to die so easily.

So Tevash moved to the cabin across the hall from the one where the door slammed. He readied his weapon and prepared to fire. Suddenly, the cabin door behind him opened and the General held Beefy's long assassin's blade in one hand and a wine glass in the other and caught Tevash by surprise. He flung the wine glass at Tevash's face, and temporarily blinded Tevash with the wine in front of him.

The General prepared the killing blow but Tevash ducked into woad's cabin, and flung the Bible at the General in retaliation. He only had a few bullets left, and wanted to make sure they counted. The General ran down the hall, and whipped the assassin's sword back in Tevash's direction, just as Tevash turned the corner and fired a spray of bullets.

GeneralHankerchief's face was torn to shreds, and he died instantly. Tevash laughed and laughed as he watched his final opponent die. When he looked down, he saw the sword embedded in his stomach... and the blood pouring onto the deck. He felt surprisingly little pain, and dropped to his knees.

"Why???" Tevash moaned.

Within minutes, he was dead as well. He lost consciousness and passed out, face down on the Bible.

______________________________

Epilogue


The Navy reached the tanker, which had crashed into the Spanish coast, and all of the gold was still on board, as well as a few dead bodies. The FBI agent assigned to this case arrived by helicopter.

He was debriefed by a Navy officer, and the salvage operation began.

"How did you know they would all kill each other?"

Askthepizzaguy: "I didn't know. When the surviellance equipment shorted out, I had no way of knowing what these guys would do. Some of them seemed determined to survive, and others were more determined to murder the others. We never would have reached them in time if they hadn't killed one another. They were in international waters, and reports indicated that Russian and Chinese fleets were about to intercept the tanker and escort it to Egypt."

"So, they were very close to escape?"

Askthepizzaguy: "Yes... they nearly won the game twice before. If they had stopped killing one another, we never would have gotten the gold back. In the end, it appears, one of them killed himself, as if he could not stand to see what was about to happen. The scene inside the tanker was quite horrifying."

"Anything else to add?"

Askthepizzaguy: "I'll be revealing my logs to your superiors when I get back to the United States. But for now, I have business to attend to."

The FBI agent from headquarters toured the tanker, and went in each room, looking for more evidence. He came to the cargo hold and observed the marvelous display of gold, the beautiful and cursed gold. He knew that this gold was harmless... but the desire... the greed... the lust for it... would be a killer.

That being said, he opened his suitcase and placed 10 gold bars inside it. He then left the tanker, with his retirement fund intact, and left the scene of the crime with a nearly undetectable smile on his face.

The End.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Of course.

First off, congrats to Yoyoma, who got it right.

Second of all, to everyone: Were you all assigned "traitor"?

[woad&fangs]

Yeah, I was a traitor.

After I died I kind of had a feeling that everyone was a traitor. There were just too many confirmed villains for it to be anything else and still be balanced.

edit: Great final story, ATPG. I especially loved the WIFOM bit. Also, I think that it's hilarious that in a game of logic and deduction it took until the final round before someone finally broke out Occam's razor.

[Reenk Roink]

Well, congrats to GH and Tevash for surviving longest. I had a strong feeling that there was more than one traitor the first time there were unsuccessful kills and by the time woad&fangs revealed, I was pretty sure about the all traitor scenario.

I sent my PM to Pizzaguy about "what he didn't tell us". Did any of you?

And you lot are impatient. I never once attempted a kill.

Oh, and of course, thanks to Pizzaguy for hosting such an interesting game, although I must admit, the fact that you hosted it made it more plausible that there was a twist.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Greetings.

This is your official Role communication. Do not quote this message or any other from me.

Your role is the Traitor. Your objective is to survive until the end of the game. If you do this, the gold will be yours.

If you read the opening story, you know that security is very tight on the tanker, and that any night actions will be difficult. For now, you do not even have the ability to murder safely. However, when the numbers of the Gang of 14 are reduced to an appropriate level, it will be far less risky to reveal yourself and gun down your rivals, and at such time you will be given the option to kill whomever you please with a high degree of accuracy.

Think carefully about your strategy. If you do choose to murder, you will be facing the cumulative defensive rating of the entire Gang, so it is not recommended at the moment. If you attempt to murder and it fails, you could be immediately detected by the Gang and lynched the next day. The odds of success increase as the Gang is reduced in size. When the chance of successfully murdering reaches 100%, I will inform you, and ask you whom you would like to murder. You can still choose to attempt at any time, but you will be risking your life.

Email me your murder selection at askthepizzaguy@yahoo.com, or PM me your selection.

You must send in your murder selection, if any, during the day phase.

Win conditions: "And they lived happily ever after"

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index....ily_ever_after
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu7UEvG...to_Probability


Not sure if link works, Mafiascum is blocked by my firewall for some reason. But before it was...

Two consecutive No Lynches followed by two consecutive No Murders meant the result was a stalemate, or "they lived happily ever after". In this game, that result would be slightly different, that everyone wins the game, even the dead people, and the host loses this game. If at the end of the game, the 3 remaining players No Lynched but two people were murdered, the final player would have gotten a partial victory, shared with the host. The host wins if everyone dies.

The host's (FBI agent) role was to make this unusual game as fair as possible. Remember back to when I began talking about the game, if you can, and I suggested it was a unique game. It was indeed, and I don't fault anyone for the result. You all have a great effort, and several of you came close to the answer, and will be mentioned.

I gave many hints along the way. The name of the game was the Golden Rule, a dead giveaway in retrospect, but a double entendre which escaped detection for a while. Your role PM's gave everything away, more or less, highlighted in blue. But that wasn't enough, I needed you guys to have real clues.

The FBI agent's reports were all clues, most of my posts were clues, my insistence that no one talk after they were dead, my explicit direction to read everything I said as having a double meaning, and the final writeups which proved many traitors and eliminated the FBI agent's logs. Then the lynch before yoyoma's on the final day, which was woad's unusual Bible passage. Then I hammered the final clue into your brains in bold.

The remaining members of the crew would now experience the golden rule.

Yoyoma deduced the reasons for this, just in time, but couldn't convince the others. GeneralHankerchief suspected as much as well, and Tevash gave subtle indications he knew something was wrong, but still targeted GH, as GH targeted him.

YLC gave a brilliant effort to figure it out after he was dead, but unfortunately he picked a different answer. Two people figured out each half of the puzzle and get special mention. Step forward please... who claimed that everyone was a Traitor but did not guess the FBI agent, and the person who figured out the FBI agent was me, but not the rest.

Yoyoma and those two others will get the award as a consolation prize, an honourable mention. You nearly had it, all! Yoyoma figured it out, and deserves top recognition.

I did my best to make the game fair, even considering the highly unusual circumstances. I hope you all enjoyed the game, had fun, and won't hate me for what seems to be a cruel joke on the surface, but was actually a winnable game, and a fair game, according to everyone I have interviewed post-mortem.

Tell me what you think.



I did my best to avoid this, but... I must award the game to

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myself.

Game winner: Askthepizzaguy

Best Player Award, Solved the case: Yoyoma1910

Honourable mentions: Chaotix27 for figuring out everyone was a traitor. And who figured out I was the FBI agent? I forgot.

for me

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd like to remind everyone at this time, that if you go back to the very beginning and read everyone's posts, keeping in mind they are completely and totally full of BS from start to finish, you will get a laugh.

In this game, everyone lied to everyone else, including the host (lie of omission). Although, even after all this, I was the most truthful out of all of you.

This entire game is nothing but lies and false pretense of deduction to hide your true roles. Everyone was evil.

[Beefy187]

Ofcause

I guess I am responsible for "OMGosh FBI!! OMGosh Lynch lynch!!"

Kudos to Yoyoma and..

Pizzaguy

Good game lads. We learned a lesson.. Never trust ATPG.

Thanks for hosting... Heh I bet you cant read this!! Heh.. Heh!!

[ULC]

Nuts, now I must host mine, and it will compare in comparison. Good job ATPG, I need to listen to the little voice in my a bit more often, just like GH should have

[GeneralHankerchief]

I had a blast. And even though I didn't figure out we were all traitors (or if I did, subconsciously supressing that particular thought out of a desire to win it all), I still take solace in the fact that out of a bunch of greedy, lying, conniving... er... daisies... I still had what it took to make it to the Final Two!

I too didn't kill anybody until Tevash, perhaps only taking half of ATPG's role PM to heart. However, after ATPG and I had this PM exchange I thought I had the all-clear to finally light things up:

It is the final day. Kill success rate is now 100%.

Do you wish to confirm a target?

Yes, I would like to kill Yoyoma. Although if he is lynched, this naturally switches to Tevash.

Orders received. Congratulations on making it this far. All you have to do is survive this round.

Ah well, maybe next time. Great game, everybody, and thanks to ATPG for hosting!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Congratulations on making it this far. All you have to do is survive this round.

Even my PM was a clue.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It is the final day. Kill success rate is now 100%.

Do you wish to confirm a target?

I will target GH.

Technically, I will target whoever else survive this day. However, I suspect that if my effort to get yoyoma lynched fails, then I would be the one that got lynched

Orders received. Congratulations on making it this far. All you have to do is survive this round.

I gave Tevash the same clue.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Percentage chance of a successful kill:

3 players remaining: 100%
4- 90%
5- 80%
6- 70%
7- 60%
8- 50%
9- 40%
10- 30%
11- 20%
12- 15%
13- 10%
14- 5%

Random.org, random integer 1-10, meet the number percentage or below for a successful roll. If the integer is above the percentage indicated by the number of players, the roll is a failure.

1 = 10%
10 = 100%

If a partial percentage, a coin flip determines the other 5%. Another roll determines if you got captured or not.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yes! Finally!

Vote: ATPG

...oh, wait...um

How prophetic. Though the vote still wouldn't count in this case.

Yes. But then again, you're all a bunch of criminals anyway. Why should you be any different?

Some of my favorite hints.

[Askthepizzaguy]

See above post, too, for edits.

I have a feeling that Pizzaguy would give the traitors the ability to kill if we tried that strategy.

Also, I'll be gone most of today and tomorrow so don't be surprised if I don't respond to questions. Since I have to get a vote in I'll vote:TevashSzat because he is the mastermind and masterminds always try to off their underlings to get a bigger slice of the pie.(yes, horrible reasoning, but I don't have much to go off of right now.)

People I'm leaning towards being innocent...

YLC- I think the ex-marine role was the additional role and is therefor likely innocent(unless the mafia's cover role was assigned at random, in which case are discussion for the last page or two has been mostly useless)

Shlin- He's roleplaying. Roleplaying a violent exswatman is likely to raise a few eyebrows. not something that most mafioso would want to do.

I love reading this post. There are so many things which are juicy in retrospect.

It was delightful using the Freem Cannon at the end to annihilate the survivors. There are some wonderful things about being the host.

Now there are even more. (sorry, that was a cheap shot, I know...)

Guys, no one really have any solid evidence against anyone, except hunches that's likely to be wrong. I think we should avoid any lynches this round, we can afford it. If the mafia isn't going to cut down on our numbers then neither should we?

Indeed.

I have a gripe - technically, "abstain" means you have no preference as to who is lynched, and is more to indicate your continued particpation. There has always been a difference between that and "no lynch".

Anyways, Vote: White Eyes

Here, I was throwing everyone a bone by giving you a No Lynch round when yes, you probably would have gotten a dead player instead. I then changed the rules to prevent abstaining, so that this wouldn't happen again.

I thought you'd appreciate the freebie.

I encourage people, if they are going to be wishy-washy, to at least vote: No lynch so I know they've put in their two cents.

I thought you'd appreciate the encouragement.

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I'm with khaan on this one. Here's a transcript of what will happen if we all decide to vote no lynch:

Round 4
Person A: No lynch
Person B: No lynch
Person C: No lynch
Person D: No lynch
Person E: No lynch
Person F: No lynch
Person G: No lynch
Person H: No lynch
Person I: No lynch
Person J: No lynch
Person K: No lynch
Person L: No lynch

ATPG: Nobody lynched, nobody killed. Begin round 5.

Round 5

Person A: No lynch
Person B: No lynch
Person C: No lynch
Person D: No lynch
Person E: No lynch
Person F: No lynch
Person G: No lynch
Person H: No lynch
Person I: No lynch
Person J: No lynch
Person K: No lynch
Person L: No lynch

ATPG: ...

~~~~~~~~~~

Now, this may just be me, but the differences in posting behavior between Persons A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, and L aren't enough for me to determine who is mafia.

I'm down with some people voting no lynch, but there needs to be some sort of dissent and discussion or otherwise the above will happen. Ultimately it's just another easy bandwagon for the mafia to hide in.

SO close.

I wonder if "824" corresponds somehow with the mafia's name... ATPG can't have put that there without a reason. Although I can't begin to guess at how to decode it, if it even means anything.

I was born on August 24th.

This wasn't a clue, so much as an in-joke meant just for me. But yes, in the end, even this meant something. But you weren't meant to decode it.

I, too, am glad for everyone's contributions. The way things are going, we will reach a delightful conclusion.

Here I was just being a

Day Four



Night Four-

The tanker sailed on... every cabin was locked tightly. They all survived until the next morning. But there was at least one person sweating profusely, possibly more.






Begin Day Five.

Still Alive:


Yoyoma1910
Shlin28
Quintus.JC
Aries777777
WhiteEyes
El Diablo
Beefy187
GeneralHankerchief
Chaotix27
Reenk Roink
Seireikhaan
woad&fangs
TevashSzat
YLC

YLC broke the tie and made it a No Lynch day for the second time. A bold gambit, which would have worked in a very unexpected way had you done the same thing the following night and day.

Apologies for my absence, I've been doing stuff IRL.

Vote: GH

Until I catch up on the thread.

Non-townie characters who vote for themselves never cease to amuse me. Very ballsy use of WIFOM.

I know we're past the whole, whose job is what, and that might make them guilty phase, but I was just thinking...

We've lynched the guy that knows how to drive the boat, and now the guy who knows how to drive the truck.



Does anybody left know how to drive?

In Yoyoma we trust.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=425

Check out the FBI report in this post. It revealed how to win the game.

"We cannot afford another day like yesterday."

Just a reminder to my little friend; don't forget to send in your murder selection during the day phase, if any.

(Maybe he forgot?)

I'm terrible.

Vote: YLC

Because I dislike those who vote for themselves. Also, I get to follow a bandwagon.

Finally, I caution everybody not to just lynch someone because they're next on the list. Let's keep analyzing once one of these two (presumably) is gone.

-edit- Oh noes, I'm third on the bandwagon!

Didn't he just vote for himself a few quotes ago? Oh, the irony, oh, the WIFOM.

In fairness, I think you guys deserve a more direct hint.

Look over everything I've said to you with a critical eye. My tongue is forked like a serpent's.

Can't say I didn't try. The role PM was what I was mainly referring to, but anything else deserves just a little bit of closer scrutiny.

Problem with that hypothesis, YLC, is that it was (at least supposed to be) in the lynch writeup. I have never heard of a host letting the mafia have influence of lynch writeups. So I don't think it was so much planted as just useless tripe with which the host wishes to confuse us.

I like how skeptical Seireikhaan is of everything. I admire skepticism.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=469

Yoyoma strikes again.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=476

Overflowing with clues.

Pizzaguy, how much input does the mafia get in writeups?

I write them myself, but someone had asked if they could suggest a method of murder.

Seireikhaan had suggested the method of murder. Cute, huh?

Over the years I've built up a strong immunity. All you have to do is stare at it for a very, very long time, and eventually, it becomes less exciting. The only problem with that is, you end up looking for more, and then it becomes an addictive obsession.

Uh... I mean...

I like women. Lots and lots of hot women. Oh, yes, women. Mmmm. So good.

No clues here. Nothing to see. Move along.

Have you played his other games WF? The man literally loves to kill the players in the most gory fashion as possible, even if there is no call for it. In his Simpson's game, Lisa was turned into a torso, in my Resident Evil game, he was always very descriptive in how he ate his victims as a zombie.

I'm not so bad when you get to know me.

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Day Seven

The tally was over. YLC stood up, having 4 votes. He dropped his weapon and began confessing everything. "It seems obvious by now that you all know I was the traitor. I was plotting your demise all along, and I wanted all that gold for myself."

Everyone lifted their weapons and prepared to fire, but one of them lifted his hand. "I want to hear what he has to say." YLC continued. "It was I who planned to betray you all, and last night I finally did. But from what I hear, some of you tried to kill me as well. So even if the tally did not swing in my favor, I'm as good as doomed. Whatever did I do that gave it away?" Some of them murmured, but no one had a clear answer. "Do you guys mind if I have one last smoke?" No one objected.

They led him out to the deck of the ship, some guns pointed at him. One man offered him a cigarette and lit it for him. "Mmm... I am going to miss this stuff. So perhaps I should also confess that I tried to kill GeneralHankerchief last night and tried to make it appear as though the surgeon did it."

Seireikhaan breathed a small sigh of relief.

YLC continued. "Surely by now, some of you have come to realize that I am not the only one on board with murderous intentions. I wonder if my two attackers would like to come forward and confess?"

No one stepped forward.

"Hmm... so I guess it's not over yet. You guys still have some work to do. I'd personally love to know who tried to kill me, as they are the key to solving this mystery."

Some of the crew looked around to gauge the reactions of the others.

"I don't have anything else to add, but I want to thank you gentlemen, it's been a pleasure to work with you. I have no regrets. And, GeneralHankerchief?"

GeneralHankerchief looked at him curiously.

"I sooooo want you to die." YLC laughed. The good General lifted his automatic weapon and shot YLC in the stomach. He fell to his knees. GeneralHankerchief walked towards him slowly, and gave him a swift kick in the face, knocking him overboard. The ocean below turned blood red, and YLC tried to scream but could not breathe. A pair of jaws emerged from the water and bit down on YLC, and dragged him under the water, never to be seen or heard from again.

9 players remaining.

Yoyoma1910
Shlin28
Quintus.JC
777Ares777
WhiteEyes
El Diablo
187Beefyz
GeneralHankerchief
Chaotix27
Reenk Roink
Seireikhaan
woad&fangs
TevashSzat
YLC

Begin Night Seven.

I really delight in writing the writeups.

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Night Seven


Everyone retired to their cabins that night, thinking about everything YLC had said before he died, authorized or not.



Yoyoma had neglected to lock his cabin door, and was loudly snoring when someone entered. The man was crafty and agile, and unsheathed his weapon. Just as he was about to deliver the finishing blow, he heard a noise in the hallway. To avoid being detected, he gave Yoyoma a quick slash across his chest, causing him to bleed, and then he opened the cabin porthole and slipped through the narrow opening. Yoyoma woke up in pain to see his attacker leaving his room, and heard noises in the hall. He quickly got up and locked his door, clutching his chest.

He listened to someone sneaking quietly down the hall, towards Chaotix's room.

Over in that cabin, Chaotix was fast asleep. His attacker crept up on him, and grasped the side of his face, looking him in the eyes. Chaotix stirred and opened his eyes, and saw the face of his attacker. "Was it you all along?" he asked.

His attacker just shrugged and sliced his throat with a knife, leaving a large gash. His throat gash poured with blood, and Chaotix slowly choked to death, looking at his attacker with hatred in his eyes. His attacker wiped the blood on Chaotix's drab clothing, and picked up Chaotix's weapon, removed the ammo clip, and tossed the other weapon out the porthole.

His attacker came up and whispered "I just want you to know, Chaotix, this is nothing personal. It's just business. Besides, we had a good run, didn't we? There's always the next mafia game. Oh, and one last thing... I found some surveillance equipment, and I destroyed it. Seems the FBI will not be able to spy on me anymore. Just thought I'd let you know... you accountants like to keep track of things, don't you?"

Chaotix jumped out of his bed, with his throat gash pouring blood, and tried to strangle his attacker, but the criminal smashed him in the face with the butt of his weapon, knocking him to the floor. Chaotix was losing consciousness from the blood loss.

The attacker dropped to his knees and covered Chaotix's mouth and withdraw his blade again. "Sorry about that, I didn't mean to make this so messy. It will all be over soon."

As he cut the neck of Chaotix even deeper, all the way to the side, blood poured all over the floor. Chaotix became very dizzy and blacked out. But before he did, he heard one last thing.

"I took a huge risk tonight. We all take risks in this business; you did when you decided to play this most dangerous game. But if you learn anything from playing a game, is that you sometimes win, and you sometimes lose."

His attacker paused.

"I don't intend to lose."




Begin Day Eight


8 players remaining.

Yoyoma1910
Shlin28
Quintus.JC
777Ares777
WhiteEyes
El Diablo
187Beefyz
GeneralHankerchief
Chaotix27
Reenk Roink
Seireikhaan
woad&fangs
TevashSzat
YLC

Beefy did it.

yep. That's because I've had a pressing interest in staying alive. However, now that the FBI agent appears to be dead I might as well share my knowledge

You see...

Setting up our transactions wasn't the only thing I've been up to. Dmitry Medvedev offered me a substantial reward to kill the yankee pig-spy myself. So I bided my time, analyzing each and everyone of you until I found someone whose guilt I was convinced so thoroughly of that I decided to make my move. Yes! It was I who attempted to poison YLC with plutonium! Unfortunately, not only did I fail but it appears I was only half right. He was not the yankee pig-spy. Merely a common traitor. But now, with the apparent death of the FBI agent, I find it fruitful to reveal my ulterior motives.

ahem...

In short. I am a vigilante. I get a minor victory with a town win and a major victory if the town wins and I kill the FBI agent myself. YLC and Ares both seemed so scummy to me that I decided to kill whichever one was not lynched(I told ATPG this in the day phase). Unfortunately that 50% chance of failure decided to rear it's ugly head. I was the first attempt on YLC. The one with the syringe(which would have been filled with plutonium). I was the person who suggested a murder method to ATPG that night. With 2 kills beside my own occuring that night I decided to hold off on the kills until I was really sure I knew who the FBI agent was.

Anyways, he's dead now so I hope this info helps.

What kind of mafia game goes by without a false reveal?

Oh, revel in the delicious duplicity. Lies, lies, everywhere lies.

Oh, Shlin... poor, poor Shlin...

the idea is to not only listen to what I say, but try to figure out what else I am saying when I say it. This entire game is one giant double entendre.

You need to not only listen, but hear more than what you're hearing. Starting from the very beginning. I can't give you more clues, and this is about as far as I will go before... well...



See the one guy smiling? That's me.

Sledgehammering the clues now.

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Day Eight-

Reenk Roink looked at the tally and realized he was done for. Reenk dropped his weapon too, remembering what had happened to those who had tried to shoot their way out.

"I surrender" he said. "I just want to have one last look at the beautiful sky before I die. And I also have things I must confess." The rest of the group led him out to the deck, where the sun was setting. "Anyone have some of that celebratory wine from when we managed to escape with the gold?" Someone left the group and Reenk continued to talk.

"I have to tell you, fellows, that I had designs on the gold myself. But I resisted the temptation. I was not responsible for any of the deaths aboard this ship, and never once did I try to kill any of you." The man returned with the chilled wine. Reenk began to drink as he stood and watched the sun set in the west. "I also have no idea if the FBI is aboard this ship. It seems to me, we would have noticed if there were such an infiltrator. But I had my suspicions, as the rest of you did."

Reenk took another sip. "One thing I do know... is that someone is playing you like a fiddle. I don't know who, or how... but I've seen the way you guys have been behaving of late and it's clear you're starting to panic. Just relax and it will come." Reenk took one final look at the sunset.

"You guys need to figure out who tried to kill YLC. I'm sure they have some explaining to do as well. I guess I am ready. One last thing... I'm not really a security guard. But I had my reasons for wanting to keep my identity a secret." Reenk downed the last of the wine, and smashed the glass against the deck. "All right you coward!!! Why don't you have some cajones and shoot me first???"

The entire group hesitated.... waiting to see who would shoot first.

"Ha! I guess he doesn't have the grapes to come forward."

One of them stepped forward. "Enough of this... the vote is finished. We kill Reenk, as we agreed. On the count of three... one... two..."

Several people fired, but some did not. It all happened so fast. Reenk fell to the ground and bled slowly to death, laughing at the sick irony of it all.



Begin Night Eight

I encourage the other traitors to come clean and step forward. If any of you had publicly revealed your traitorous role PM (against all self-interest) the game would have been over. You would have realized you were all traitors.

...Right?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=585

I really love doing the writeups. This game would be a very entertaining movie.

*Laughs Manically* This gets funnier by the second *continues laughing*

He's a cruel, sadistic man. Just like me.

*by Pizzaguy* you....guys.......man too funny......

Most of you dead people have such bad manners.

Be nice to the live people. Then again, I'd laugh too. The laughs WERE attempts to make you paranoid. This was actually helpful, methinks it should have been anyway.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Day Nine

woad&fangs was sitting in his room when the next vote came around. He refused to attend. Everyone else had voted for him, as he suspected they would. He was actually more interested in the book he was reading.

A knock on the door... "Enter" said woad.

"The vote is almost unanimous. What say you?"

woad- "I believe it was Yoyoma. Not that you care what I have to say, you pack of rabid wolves."
"Right. Any final words?"

woad- "I will not plead for my life. Instead, I am seeking redemption. I beg the Lord forgiveness for my sins..."
"Yeah, yeah... whatever. Is that all?"

woad- "That's all."

The group raised their weapons and shot him to death. Afterwards, they inspected his room. Splattered everywhere were his remains, and little else. There was a cot, a desk, a lamp, a book open, and woad's weapon, which had not been fired after all these days. They looked at the book on the desk, and it was a Bible. A passage was highlighted.



And so the group left his cabin and went back to theirs.


Night Nine


The intruder entered Shlin28's room that night, with a rusty hatchet. He approached the sleeping Shlin, and stuck him with a needle. Shlin began to stir, looked into the eyes of his attacker, but quickly faded into a drug-induced stupor. He watched in groggy horror as the intruder buried the hatchet in his chest, and began carving out his beating heart. He cut the organ completely out of Shlin's chest and violently bit into it, voraciously devouring the still-beating meat. He ate and ate and soon, there was nothing left but a pool of blood. Shlin managed to make a soft utterance... he tried to plead for his life, but he could not form the words.

The attacker took a glass and began drinking the blood, and after drinking it all up, he spoke. "At long last, my Shlinny Shlinn Shlin, I have finally gained your rich and tasty courage."

But the noise of the attack had caused others to stir. One of the crew members fired his weapon into the air.

"There's an attack! There's an attack! Everyone come quickly!!!"

All the other crew members ran to Shlin's cabin and the first one in the room fired his weapon. Seireikhaan dropped to the ground, his face covered in blood. His legs were torn apart by the gunfire, but he was still conscious.

"Before we put you out of your misery, do you have anything to say?"

Seireikhaan:

"I guess not. Good-bye... Seireikhaan!"

They all shot him to death.


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Game Note: Any other night actions were cancelled due to the circumstances of Seireikhaan's and Shlin28's death. No one slept at all for the rest of the night, and everyone sat in the same room with their weapons drawn, until the merciful sun came up.

Players remaining: 3

Yoyoma1910
GeneralHankerchief
TevashSzat


Begin the Final Day.


The remaining members of the crew would now experience the golden rule.

Seireikhaan, you never cease to amaze me. (He requested that he eat Shlin's heart and specifically say the tasty courage part. I take it this is an in-joke?)

Clue-ridden goodness.

Another dead person laughs at the futile struggle. Hints from your dead comrades... I am far too generous as a host sometimes.

Vote:No Lynch

The brilliancy prize. This is clearly not in his self-interest according to his role PM. Even though the clue is obvious, following the clue's suggestion is not the obvious path. He chose the un-obvious path.

Bow before the master.

I believe Pizza is likely asking former players to come and post laughter on this thread to try and create a sense of paranoia amongst ourselves.


Hmmm.

He is so smart. He is so smart. S-M-R-T.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I mean S-M-A-R-T.

Very intuitive.

Eagarly anticipating...

Sorry to keep everyone waiting for 2 days. I wanted to give them one final chance to change their minds.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=624

It bears repeating.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=630

It bears repeating.

I do agree that the golden rule seems somewhat significant. However, I do not believe ATPG would pull such a joke, but then who knows....

Tevash probably got the idea, here he's considering the possibility. But I think he wanted to win outright, not share the victory.

That was the prize you all sought, in the absence of real gold.

I can assure you, yoyoma that I am indeed not mafia.

Personally, I have no clue what ATPG mentioned me sometimes, but I suppose as the leader of our little gang, I would most likely have a greater presence in activities than other people.

Anyways, just to humor you, I have decided to Unvote, Vote: No Lynch just to see what would happen.

Tantalizingly close... sooooo close.... please please please...

Don't worry beefy, you'll luagh as hard as the rest of us when this game is done

Bad YLC. This is as good as a clue. I told peeps to stop posting. Grrr...

To make it absolute:


unvote:no lynch
Vote :Yoyoma




I only play these games to play them. What you consider victory really means little to me. I like to try to game systems, and figure out the sides of the box.

If I cannot see if my theory is correct, then I care little to continue playing.



You two are likely playing to "win," so I suppose one of you deserves to do so.

Again, good luck. Congratulations, whichever side gets it.

And he gets the prize for this way of thinking, which happened to be correct in this case. He was "traitor"/serialkiller/mafia whatever you guys were, and he was willing to settle with a stalemate. A very noble idea.


_______________________________________


If you have any questions, I will address them. Please feel free to have a post-game discussion now.

For Yoyoma1910, and me.

[ULC]

I myself gave a few clues. One of my initial clues happened after White Eyes died. I specifically asked that ATPG post "In the Eternal Darkness of the night, there is a fine Line where you may find me." I even went so far as to help the town to solve it, but your quick and early dismissal of it meant I too did not wish to bring it back up for fear of being lynched.

The clue can be taken literally - In Eternal Darkness, their is a line by the main villain - "I am Your Lord and Conqueror!" My initials, YLC, match perfectly with this - in fact, YLC stands for YourLordandConqueror. This could have broken open the game, but alas, it was not to be.

Another post I made, about the champagne that was not for the living players, was a dead give away. The remaining players, after their vote upon Yoyoma, could no longer have victory (champagne). There was still time for you to pay attention to change your vote, but alas it twas not to be again.

All in all, yes I am a very spiteful dead townie, but I do in fact help you to try and spill clues out - you need but listen (least past the sarcasm and anger ). Just because I laugh at you, does not mean I won't help - I am all to glad too, I just prefer to watch you squirm while I do.

[TevashSzat]

Great game ATPG

I suspected something was wrong from the night where there were 3 attempted murders. I even pmed ATPG a pretty long excerpt dictating what I was thinking, including that we may all be traitors. However, I doubted that was possible and merely thought that there were many special rules.

Alas, I would've stayed at no lynch had GH not voted, but I guess I just wanted to be certain that I would be one of the last people surviving.

Also, I have to say, this must be the longest small mafia game out there

[Askthepizzaguy]

Many thanks, TevashSzat and all who enjoyed the game and made it so successful!

Congratulations on being the last to die. If only you had waited a few seconds before turning that corner... patience is a virtue even I don't seem to have.

[Yoyoma1910]

Selfish fools! We could have won, all you had to do was be willing to share.



I was so close to even figuring out the whole deal! This is a PM which I send to Pizza around the 5th, and Pizza's later response.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910
Let me guess: We have one FBI agent, and everyone else is a greedy Traitor.



Very nice.

That's a very good guess, but you'd still have to determine who the FBI agent is, and I can't confirm or deny either way.

If you're just playing a game to win, then you're not winning anything.

[shlin28]

Man... in my notes for this game I wrote:

Perhaps the traitor(s) are not a minority in the game, but is instead the majority, with a few smattering of "pro-town" roles between them (or maybe none! Just 13 traitors vs. 1 FBI) . Perhaps this could be the balance the host talked about, as 13 people all trying to be the last survivor gives a HUGE chance for the lone FBI to survive, especially if he has some uber abilities. That would explain the sudden flurry of failed kills... or maybe I am totally wrong and it could all be explained by vigs, SKs and protection abilities. - POSSIBLY FALSE

I have no idea why I wrote "possibly false" for this... Because of that, whenever I read my notes I just skipped over that part

Good ATPG game as usual

PS: Khaan, can you please tell me why you want to steal my courage by eating my heart?

[boudica]

Of course.

First off, congrats to Yoyoma, who got it right.

ditto. Well played all and well designed ATPG - made it a fun game to read

[White_eyes:D]

Yoyoma, my respect has grown for you *note* I also was close to getting the victory.....but Beefy and GH HAD to lynch me then......

[Thermal]

And who figured out I was the FBI agent? I forgot.

for me

I DID GO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!


Love the idea of the host being the mafia Inspiration for my upcoming game me thinks, great as always ATPG enjoy your own made badge in your signature


p.s: how could u forget me ATPG? This just means i'll have to act more crazy to compensate

[Thermal]

Also bravo yoyoma for thinking out of the box there, i noticed you hadn't spammed once in this game, are we seeing a more serious yoyoma, or is this just behavior to look out for whenever your mafia?

[Yoyoma1910]

Also bravo yoyoma for thinking out of the box there, i noticed you hadn't spammed once in this game, are we seeing a more serious yoyoma, or is this just behavior to look out for whenever your mafia?

Be most careful with the snake who smiles... or is it does not smile.




Since the other two had their last night orders up, I though I would post this as well:

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910
Quote:

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
It is the final day. Kill success rate is now 100%.

Do you wish to confirm a target?

Did this already pass?

Nope, it's the final day. You can make a choice now if you want.

Well... I perhaps shall. I guess it depends on the day's events.

I'd also like to say, for the record, I never lied.

I simply stated the truth in a less obvious manner, by saying that "I wasn't part of the night kills, and wasn't FBI."

[Quintus.JC]

Blimey! So nothing is what they appear to be.

This game has one of the most brilliant twist ever; the host being the mafia really is something out of the ordinary, I could see a new trend starting here. But assigning everyone as traitor was a stroke of genius, its really interesting to see how everyone behaves with themselves having mafia roles. This game deserves to be remembered for a long time to come.

Bravo ATPG, this game was superbly hosted.

[Beefy187]

I see whos getting my vote for the best gameroom host....

Definitely not you ATPG

Ok... Maybe you are

[seireikhaan]

FYI- the whole "rich and tasty courage" thing was a combination of inspiration from the earlier kill attempts by YLC as well as a quote from Futurama.

In the episode in which Bender and Fry sign up for the military to get the military discount, Earth declares war on a planet of bouncing balls. When being sent off, the Professor tells the two "Make sure to eat the heart of those you vanquish, to gain their courage! Yes... their rich and tasty courage... oh yes."*drools slightly

[Chaotix]

Hmph. Why do I always seem to miss the ending parties?

In any case, great game ATPG, and thanks for the honorable mention! I had a lot of fun in this one.

[Askthepizzaguy]

To everyone who had a good time, and thanks for not killing me when you found out the truth.

You all got a chance to be the evil bad guy, or if you preferred, choose the more honourable path. That's something you don't get to have in every game.