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    Default Re: Cruvamendica (Goidilic Cavalry) Description Incorrect

    The Goidilic Cavalry and chariots issue, I feel, is a valid one, but where archaeological findings do not fill in the gaps, its great to know that other means can be used. Brythonic cavalry is still a bit of a mystery, and images of them come only from a handful of British coins showing these horsemen

    Concerning chariots in Eire, what do we know for sure?

    The chariots referred to in Irish literature may not the fast moving, agile, lightweight chariots we know from the Celtic coinage and battles with Romans and Greeks.
    -Wheels found at Doogarymore date to the 4-5th century B.C. and were heavy, cumbersome, and not what are found on a war chariot.
    -In Limerick, specifically Lough Gur, two hollow bronze mounts are known and may have been chariot yoke mounts. A bronze British made terret (terrets are loops that the reins would pass through) could be from a chariot.
    -A few wooden horse yokes have been discovered as well

    The wooden tracks that have been discovered in Eire are strong proof that some kinf of wheeled transport could have been used in Eire in the Iron Age and really it seems almost certain that carts and probably chariots were used. Also, it seems like just about everyone settled Eire in some fashion.

    -Sections of the Votadini appear to settle in northwest Eire.
    -The Barreki and Lagini tribes were of Brigantine origin.
    -Sections of the Corionototae, know in Eire as the Coriondi, settled in along the south east.
    -The Dumnonii are found north of Dublin, but also in southwest Scotland and Cornwall.
    -From Gaul the Veneti and Venelli probably had colonies in southern Eire where they were known as the Venii. We all know the Veneti and Armorican Gauls were great seafarers with large fleets for mercantile pursuits as well as war.
    -Even the Fir Bolg invasions could equate to the Belgae

    Basically, we know its certain that the Celtic folk movements in the 4th and 3rd centuries B.C. took the Celts and their La Tene masterpieces, among the best metalwork in Europe, all over the 'known world' into Italy, Greece, Galatia, Iberia, Britain, and everywhere in between. Really, is it a big stretch to think that the Belgic/Gallic/Brythonic invaders/settlers could not have introduced a war chariot (not cart) to Eire assuming the indigenous population did not use them previously? I do not believe that just because a chariot hasn't been found in Ireland that it should automatically be ruled out as a possibility, despite only legends/stories specifically mentioning chariots.
    Last edited by Power2the1; 12-06-2008 at 06:39.

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