Quote Originally Posted by k_raso View Post
Comparing the spanish conquest of south america with a mass genocide is hardly a good historical analysis technique. That would ignore the chapters of the intervention of the church, the leyes de indias and most of the regulatory normative that arose after the spanish conquest of America. There was killing, as in any conquest, but not genocide, and the interpretation you are proposing is a caricaturized perspective of the spanish conquest, more according to the colonization process of North America.



It was so deserted that the mapuche people continued to fight against the spanish conqueror from the time of their arrival into Chile until they departed after the South American independence, resulting into an effectively unconquerable people. The mapuche were only assimilated into the Chilean state on 1881, 63 years after the declaration of independence of Chile. At the time of their assimilation, they numbered around 500.000 people, and at the time of the spanish arrival, around 1 million. And yes, south of Chile was deserted.

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I am absolutely agree with the first paragraph.

About the second, yeah Chile it wasnt a desert like Pampa but well you will be agree in that it wasnt really so big populated as Mexico or Venezuela, Colombia.

Quote Originally Posted by Sumskilz View Post
Berg-i-dum,

The estimates on the percentage of Native population whipped out vary greatly, the highest being about 90%. This was by disease primarily, not genocide. The genetic evidence matches the historical records fairly well. The vast majority of Latin America is mixed not Native as you assert. In the study I posted which looked at the genetic makeup of northwest Columbia, 94% of the Y chromosome lineages were of European origin, 5% African, and only 1% Native American where as the mtDNA lineages were 90% Native American, 8% African and only 2% European. It appears that the reason Native genetics were not nearly wiped out is because Spanish men took Native wives.

This is not all Black Legend nonsense; don’t think the whole English speaking world believes in all that.
Your study is about a reduced area of Colombia heavily colonized by spaniards. This dont explain nothing in general. The vast majority of latin america is native in the most of Latin America, you can go there and check it. No study is neccesary, just kidding hehe. The principal reason is that spaniards nor diseases didnt kill the most of population and the colonizers were a really bit porcentage of population that came across the ocean, Spain was a really little country to manage and to make a so big influence in latin america population much more bigger than spanish one...

A so big and really epic disease would be came to History some time ago nor in the current decades. And i have read other studies appart from Black Legend stories that speak about harmful and big diseases but for God shake, not the 90%.