I already read posts that explain how to use cavalry in EB effectively, but what about celtic fools...
I had enermous problems using chidainh, and their Casse Bodyguards
Anyone can help?![]()
I already read posts that explain how to use cavalry in EB effectively, but what about celtic fools...
I had enermous problems using chidainh, and their Casse Bodyguards
Anyone can help?![]()
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Park your chariots as close to a settlement's walls as possible and let them use up all their ammo that way. They will also soak up a lot of missile fire without taking many casualties. Hey, at least they're contributing.
Also try charging the chariots into enemy infantry only when they are facing away from them.
Alternatively, charge right through them ( click on a point some distance behind the enemy troops and run) and have your infantry attack immediately afterwards.
Last edited by desert; 12-02-2008 at 06:33.
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Barrae dies tragically when he smash infantry formations from BEHIND...I just play casse and I use Barrae too... (I never use him before, coz its weird he's the leader and his father and older kin are not... ) yes, he's pretty good at statistic, but his chariot weirdos are poor fighters.... He was killed in his 5th battle when smashing Avernii infantry formations from behind (he caught up and killed)... before I reload and never use him to smash enemy line again...and I can see that they had no elite units in their line... But I'm not sure if it just my bad luck
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Then use them to pepper the enemy with javelins. Charge when you are sure that the enemy is close to routing.
(At the very same moment I play EB on my desktop... I write this in my Laptop)
Using chariots to pepper enemy line with javelins is a lot of waste... they are too exspensive to be used as skirmishers and rout chasers... charging infantry line with them just made most of them fell dead...
I think now that chariots are the real "Surprisingly Bad Units" afterall...Well, their 50 charge bonus is really a deceiver...
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How are they expensive?
Aren't they 200 mnai per FM?
I also have no idea how to use chariots; I tried some methods stated before such as driving them through an enemy formation and flooding the holes left there by the chariots with other infantry but what happened was that the chariots drives towards enemy formation, starts peppering the enemy with javelins, until the front of the chariot's formation somehow engages in combat with the enemy, losing around 10 men. so I started spam-clicking for the chariots to move instead of fight, and the clumsiness of the chariots made them lose another dozen men, while I kept swearing at the computer. then the chariot finally moves through the enemy formation, holes appear, I order some botroas forward fill the holes; however the melee does not seem to be going well for my troops, so I moved the cidanh a short distance away and order them to turn and charge (the moving away was to make distance and gather momentum for the charge). however the charge did nothing useful and the enemy units at the back of their line turn around and lower the number of men in my chariots to 14.
which is why I stopped playing my Casse campaign. A pity though, Barae was a really powerful character.
I'll post a video on youtube demonstrating how to use chariots tomorrow, or when I don't have 8 HOURS OF HOMEWORK >_> . FFS, I should be asleep right now!
Yes if you are casse... and you didn't want your whole army rout beacause your poor FM falls from his squeaky chariots... If you are Aedui or Avernii, Chidainh are quite exspensive...How are they expensive?
Aren't they 200 mnai per FM?3200 minai or so... I think it was better used to train some fat-<censored>-Gaesataes...
I just try to fill the gaps with infantry after they charge, and I must admit, that was a hard trick, but very effective indeed... thanks... but my chidainh crew survive is just 16... with their 2 Hp
Maybe next time I'll just increase their Hp in EDU to 5 or 6, so they will survive easily...![]()
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Chartiots are the best units in EB.
One unit of those in my stack and I can win any battle.
They kill over 200-300 enemies easy each battle, while taking only 2-5 casualties (hugh unit scales).
1. Deploy them behind your lines. Do NOT let them enter the fray. Just let them scare the enemy.
2. When the enemy is weakened and demoralised, click behind the enemy lines so that your chariots go through them.
This will most likely cause a massive rout.
3. AND MOST IMPORTANT : Keep the chariots moving at ALL time!
Imagine you were a foot soldier :
a. you see a chariot charging at you = scared
b. you see a chariot standing still in front of you = you pull the enemy of the chariot and kill him.
4. Chariots are good against cavalry, but keep in mind : keep them moving!
Summary :
Use them to demoralise the enemy and use them to initiate mass routs.
And keep them moving!
Only Scythed Chariots are good against cavalry. Chariots without scythes will get slaughtered by any self-respecting medium cavalry.
like stated before Chariots should only be used against demoralized weakened enemies. make sure they are tired out too.
To be honest, they are a bloody nuisance to me. Useless in a huge battle due to the amount of micromanagement they require compared to proper cavalry. Give me some heavy horses and I'll rout your chariots no problem.
The best use of Chariots is to sit them in the back of the enemy line, chase their skirmishers and archers away, and pepper the back of their battleline. this will demoralize them terribly. they'll be worried over exposed flanks and scared of chariots. then once they are wavering, lost a few good men (especially if they lost their captains and/or standard bearer) charge them repeatedly, then one last good charge through the line to friendly held ground, if they havent routed already. then your infantry should storm the gaps.
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Huh? Unless Brihentin, Curepos and the likes don't qualify; I've never had problem destroying those units using a Casse bodyguard + random (usually Sotaroas who've spent all their missiles) crappy infantry unit with pointy sticks... Trick is to smash the dense formation, and litteraly 'shove' the cavalry under the ground as it were.
Chariot attacks against cavalry are the equivalent of 'ramming' infantry with phalanxes: if you do it right you barely suffer any casualties at all; if you do it wrong your unit will get surrounded and promptly cut to pieces.
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Last edited by Ibrahim; 12-02-2008 at 16:34.
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