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    Default Fairly new to this game and got questions

    So i am fairly new and would like to ask some questions on this frustrating mod:p.

    1. Wich faction is closest to Afghanistan besides Arche Seleukeia because they suck.

    2. Usually in books or movies i read or hear "The persians invaded... blabla" but suddenly in this mod there are a lot of persian factions, wich faction do they mean when they say the persians invaded blabla?? I guess Arche Seleukeia because they are the biggest. My history book also said the persians had an empire stretching from Turkey to Afghanistan and that's how it is to the AS faction.

    3. For a beginner n00b like me who can handle cash income but not war wich Greek or Persian faction is the best, all the Greek and Persian factions are very challenging or nigh-impossible.

    4. Why are there no easy factions, the lowest is moderate and those are excatly the factions i terribly dislike.

    5. Any in-battle tips for me? I play on medium, i usually beat armies outnumbering them but if i am outnumbered i always get screwed. So what should i do to beat a larger army than mine?

    6. Why is it so hard to control a large empire, i always have to check every 20 cities with AS that's why they suck. Is it always like that or is there a way to speed it up.

    7. There is no shield wall in the game, why they are awesome....

    8. Best infantry faction? I hate cavalry, they are there only to flank and even then they die quickly.


    Sorry for these stupid questions in a large amount, but if you would be kind enough to answer me thanks a billion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omidoow View Post
    So i am fairly new and would like to ask some questions on this frustrating mod:p.

    1. Wich faction is closest to Afghanistan besides Arche Seleukeia because they suck.
    Baktria. I'm sure all the team members who worked hard on the Seleukid faction are delighted to hear that you think the AS sucks. That's a shame, because perhaps some of them may have been otherwise inclined to answer some of your other questions.
    Quote Originally Posted by omidoow View Post
    2. Usually in books or movies i read or hear "The persians invaded... blabla" but suddenly in this mod there are a lot of persian factions, wich faction do they mean when they say the persians invaded blabla?? I guess Arche Seleukeia because they are the biggest. My history book also said the persians had an empire stretching from Turkey to Afghanistan and that's how it is to the AS faction.
    The Persian empire you're probably thinking of was conquered by Alexander before EB begins. The AS is not Persian. The Pahlava eventually gained control of much of the old Persian empire.
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    Default Re: Fairly new to this game and got questions

    1. Baktria.
    2. I don't really understand what you are asking. Arche Seleukia is Greek. There is no Persian faction, although you could say that Pontos and Hayasdan are sort of Persian (they were once part of the Achaemenid Empire).
    3. Rome and Carthage are probably the easiest factions, and you get good money from the start. The easiest Greek faction is probably the Ptolemies, because they are stable, have a good amount of land to draw income from, and .
    4. ???
    5. The AI is pretty retarded. Exploit that fact, use it to your advantage. Don't attack head-on of course (sounds like that's what you are doing to me; am I wrong?).
    6. Large empires were historically hard to control.
    7. You can use shieldwall in BI-EB. RTW and Alex EB have no shieldwall, because regular RTW and Alex don't have shieldwall.
    8. Certain cavalry units in EB can destroy elite phalanxes with frontal charges. I suggest you read the cavalry guide. Anyway, all factions generally have good infantry, but the non-steppe European factions usually have the most to choose from when it comes to infantry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desert View Post
    1. Baktria.
    2. I don't really understand what you are asking. Arche Seleukia is Greek. There is no Persian faction, although you could say that Pontos and Hayasdan are sort of Persian (they were once part of the Achaemenid Empire).
    3. Rome and Carthage are probably the easiest factions, and you get good money from the start. The easiest Greek faction is probably the Ptolemies, because they are stable, have a good amount of land to draw income from, and .
    4. ???
    5. The AI is pretty retarded. Exploit that fact, use it to your advantage. Don't attack head-on of course (sounds like that's what you are doing to me; am I wrong?).
    6. Large empires were historically hard to control.
    7. You can use shieldwall in BI-EB. RTW and Alex EB have no shieldwall, because regular RTW and Alex don't have shieldwall.
    8. Certain cavalry units in EB can destroy elite phalanxes with frontal charges. I suggest you read the cavalry guide. Anyway, all factions generally have good infantry, but the non-steppe European factions usually have the most to choose from when it comes to infantry.

    Cavalry Guide: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=using+cavalry

    Uhh... no you cant say Hayasdan is Persian or its "sort of" Persian, because Armenians are Armenian not Persian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artavazd View Post
    Uhh... no you cant say Hayasdan is Persian or its "sort of" Persian, because Armenians are Armenian not Persian.
    The Royal Family -is- Persian though.
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    Ya asked a mouthful kid.

    1. Wich faction is closest to Afghanistan besides Arche Seleukeia because they suck.

    Baktria is pretty much due north of modern day Afghanistan. Hard to play because they have 1 city to start.

    2. Usually in books or movies i read or hear "The persians invaded... blabla" but suddenly in this mod there are a lot of persian factions, wich faction do they mean when they say the persians invaded blabla?? I guess Arche Seleukeia because they are the biggest. My history book also said the persians had an empire stretching from Turkey to Afghanistan and that's how it is to the AS faction.

    Technically there isn't a native Persian empire in the EB timeframe. Arche Seleukia is a diadochi empire, as are about four other factions. The diadochi were Alexander the Great's successors. Basically when he died his generals carved chunks out of his empire and made it theirs then started fighting each other for the rest. Seleukia corresponds geographically with much of the Achaemenid (pre-Alexander Persian) empire. Actually if you take Seleukia, the Ptolemaic empire, most of Pontos, Armenia, and Baktria, you've got roughly the old Persian Empire. Add Greece and you've got Alexander's.

    3. For a beginner n00b like me who can handle cash income but not war wich Greek or Persian faction is the best, all the Greek and Persian factions are very challenging or nigh-impossible.

    There really is no "best" faction. Some factions have better starting positions than others and some have more areas that are easy to capture, but none are impossible and none are a cakewalk.

    The steppe factions (Saka, Sauromatae) are challenging unless you know how to use horse archers properly. Basically you put a unit on three sides of the enemy and pepper them, always turning fire at will off, they turn about in circles until they all die or you rush generals with your family members who are battlefield gods.

    The diadochi are mostly hammer and anvil tactics. A line of phalanx with light units on the flanks and cavalry to charge once the enemy are engaged.

    Barbarian factions are mostly infantry and I have little experience with them, so I can't talk much except about the Casse. You put heavy infantry inn the center and light on the flanks so you can encircle the enemy.


    4. Why are there no easy factions, the lowest is moderate and those are excatly the factions i terribly dislike.

    Well historically carving an empire out of others wasn't very easy. I actually haven't found any of the factions I've played so far to be insanely difficult. If you find it too hard, just lower the difficulty and/or use console cheats. You can find out about those in gamefaqs.com under rome total war cheats. Besides, if there was no challenge the game would be boring.

    5. Any in-battle tips for me? I play on medium, i usually beat armies outnumbering them but if i am outnumbered i always get screwed. So what should i do to beat a larger army than mine?

    Flank, flank, flank. Use archers to soften up their light infantry, heavy infantry to engage, and light infantry/cavalry to flank or charge from the rear. The trick to cavalry is to get them a decent distance away and then click on the unit you want to charge. If it worked, you'll hear a horn blowing, they will lower their lances, and bada bing! Destruction. Leave them engaged for about 10 - 15 seconds then run them away. Charge again. Lather rinse repeat. Cavalry were never meant for protracted melee. They're for charging. Use skirmishers to draw elite units away from the main fight so you screw up the enemy's formations. Never attack pikemen from the front unless you are using the unit to pin them down. Charge when you can because the charge bonus is nice. Try a few practice battles in custom battles.

    6. Why is it so hard to control a large empire, i always have to check every 20 cities with AS that's why they suck. Is it always like that or is there a way to speed it up.

    Speed what up?

    Controlling a large empire is hard. Local rulers are corrupt, they don't respect central authority. People don't like the idea of paying tribute to some schmuck 1000 miles away. It's a distance to the capitol penalty. Build happiness, law, and health bonus buildings. Alternatively, you could just let the easternmost four or five cities of AS revolt by destroying all buildings and taking out the garrison. They're low population and high risk anyway.

    7. There is no shield wall in the game, why they are awesome....

    Apparently the team either a) didn't think it historical for the timeperiod or b) found a better use

    8. Best infantry faction? I hate cavalry, they are there only to flank and even then they die quickly.

    See above for cavalry, they rock. The best infantry faction is probably Rome. Quarthadastim also have great infantry in the form of their iberian heavies. Makedon has good phalax infantry. The barbarian factions all have some killer infantry (and almost no horse).

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    Thanks a lot, i'll take Baktria, i liked their colour and emblem a lot anyway

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    maybe you should try an easier faction for the beginning, like the romanii, if this really is your first game
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    Yeah. A lot of players get repeatedly annihilated playing as the Baktrians. They're a diadochoi state, btw.

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    How about the Koinon Hellenon or something. I like them but the Makedonians are too strong, they got a full stack in the beginning.

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    Well if you want a persian faction i think Pahlava is your choice...but they are a cav faction
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    For more foot-units, try Hayasdan. They are really great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    For more foot-units, try Hayasdan. They are really great.
    If he's a beginner N00b, in his own words, this might turn into frustration.

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    True, yeah. Though there aren't any other Persian successor factions that aren't difficult.
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    Lol

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    Picking the Hai would be his biggest mistake possible. Nomads would be a better choice than the Hai.
    I think he should pick a western faction just to get used to the game first. The East is a deadly place in 272 BC compared to the western world.
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    Default Re: Fairly new to this game and got questions

    1. Wich faction is closest to Afghanistan besides Arche Seleukeia because they suck.- Bactria, And they are a good infantry faction as well

    2. Usually in books or movies i read or hear "The persians invaded... blabla" but suddenly in this mod there are a lot of persian factions, wich faction do they mean when they say the persians invaded blabla?? I guess Arche Seleukeia because they are the biggest. My history book also said the persians had an empire stretching from Turkey to Afghanistan and that's how it is to the AS faction.-
    That must be the Achaemenid persian empire that was annihilated some 50 years before the start of the EB timeframe, They had that huge, fat ass empire you're speaking of
    3. For a beginner n00b like me who can handle cash income but not war wich Greek or Persian faction is the best, all the Greek and Persian factions are very challenging or nigh-impossible.- I suggest Ptolemaic Empire, They have good finance and nice phalanxes as well
    4. Why are there no easy factions, the lowest is moderate and those are excatly the factions i terribly dislike. - Because moderate is easy in this mod (well easiest)

    5. Any in-battle tips for me? I play on medium, i usually beat armies outnumbering them but if i am outnumbered i always get screwed. So what should i do to beat a larger army than mine?- Use phalanx makedonian style troops and you beat the crap out of them!

    6. Why is it so hard to control a large empire, i always have to check every 20 cities with AS that's why they suck. Is it always like that or is there a way to speed it up.- It's easier to govern your garden then the world

    7. There is no shield wall in the game, why they are awesome....- If i am not mistaken the 1.1 BI installer haves shieldwall!

    8. Best infantry faction? I hate cavalry, they are there only to flank and even then they die quickly-
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    Soviet union? *cough cough 28 million casualties cough cough retreating men were machinegunned by their officers cough cough cough* damn I gotta quit smoking.
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    That's the way to handle cowards and runaways
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    28 million casualties. Hey but 28 dead ppl crushed nazi-germany not?
    and now
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    g'day,
    something i find handy in the administration of a large empire is to right click on the city tab. it will give you a rundown of all you settlements and right clicking on one will bring up its construction tab. i find it easier than running around and checking all your settlement yourself.

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