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View Poll Results: Please vote Yes or No to the following laws:
RC 7.4: No
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Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 22. This poll is closed
This poll is only for players of the Last of the Romans.
Voting will be open for 48 hours, until 16:00 GMT on Thursday, December 11th. A further 24 hours of voting may be allowed if it is required.
Please note: If you wish to abstain on a vote, do not vote either yes or no for it.
The full text of the proposals is as follows:
CA 7.1:
A Senator, that is not accompanied by an army of four units, is not allowed to seize more than two ships without the permission of the Megas Logothetes.
Proposed:Pavlos Chrysovergos
Seconds:Sophronios Komnenos, Isaakios Komnenos
CA 7.2:
In the case of the 1170 peace negotiations the absence of any participants will be counted as an agreement to end the hostilities between all parties in the proposed white peace.
Proposed:Apionnas Vringas
Seconds:Pavlos Chrysovergos, Savvas ek Militou
Edict 7.1:
A joint invasion of Mesopotamia is to be conducted by Andronikos Komnenos and The Order of St. John.
Proposed: Andronikos Komnenos
Seconds:Vartholomaios Ksiros, Savvas ek Militou
Edict 7.2
That 2 more diplomats be recruited and send to western lands beyond the Holy Roman Empire to secure maps, trade and possible alliance
Proposed:Aleksios ek Ikoniou
Seconds:Pavlos Chrysovergos, Savvas ek Militou
Note: Rule Changes require a 2/3 majority of unweighted votes to pass.
RC 7.1 - All Agents that start the turn within a Senator's army(stack) fall under that Senators control until the end of the current Megas term, so long as they remain within the army(stack).
Proposed: YLC
RC 7.2 - The military structure, and training, and deployment of all field armies will be regimented more efficiently. To this effect, Real Combat 1.3 will be installed, along with a Sounds Fix, so that our armies will be more efficient.
Proposed: YLC
RC 7.3 - If RC 7.2 passes, then an avatar will be spawned within the 1170-1185 Megas term, and renamed Sergios ek Kallipoleos, pending YLC and TC's approval. If an avatar that is spawned within 1170-1185 Megas term is not selected, then all spawned avatars at the end of the term will be terminated and this RC will be null and void.
Proposed: YLC
RC 7.4: Rule 5.3 will be modified as follows (changes in bold):
Voting will be open for 48 hours, until 16:00 GMT on Thursday, December 11th. A further 24 hours of voting may be allowed if it is required.
Please note: If you wish to abstain on a vote, do not vote either yes or no for it.
The full text of the proposals is as follows:
CA 7.1:
A Senator, that is not accompanied by an army of four units, is not allowed to seize more than two ships without the permission of the Megas Logothetes.
Proposed:Pavlos Chrysovergos
Seconds:Sophronios Komnenos, Isaakios Komnenos
CA 7.2:
In the case of the 1170 peace negotiations the absence of any participants will be counted as an agreement to end the hostilities between all parties in the proposed white peace.
Proposed:Apionnas Vringas
Seconds:Pavlos Chrysovergos, Savvas ek Militou
Edict 7.1:
A joint invasion of Mesopotamia is to be conducted by Andronikos Komnenos and The Order of St. John.
Proposed: Andronikos Komnenos
Seconds:Vartholomaios Ksiros, Savvas ek Militou
Edict 7.2
That 2 more diplomats be recruited and send to western lands beyond the Holy Roman Empire to secure maps, trade and possible alliance
Proposed:Aleksios ek Ikoniou
Seconds:Pavlos Chrysovergos, Savvas ek Militou
Note: Rule Changes require a 2/3 majority of unweighted votes to pass.
RC 7.1 - All Agents that start the turn within a Senator's army(stack) fall under that Senators control until the end of the current Megas term, so long as they remain within the army(stack).
Proposed: YLC
RC 7.2 - The military structure, and training, and deployment of all field armies will be regimented more efficiently. To this effect, Real Combat 1.3 will be installed, along with a Sounds Fix, so that our armies will be more efficient.
Proposed: YLC
RC 7.3 - If RC 7.2 passes, then an avatar will be spawned within the 1170-1185 Megas term, and renamed Sergios ek Kallipoleos, pending YLC and TC's approval. If an avatar that is spawned within 1170-1185 Megas term is not selected, then all spawned avatars at the end of the term will be terminated and this RC will be null and void.
Proposed: YLC
RC 7.4: Rule 5.3 will be modified as follows (changes in bold):
Originally Posted by :
5.3 – Ending a Civil War: A Civil War will end when all Senators on one side are dead or all living Senators on both sides publicly agree to a Peace Treaty. A Senator's public agreement to a Peace Treaty will also remove all Senators below him in his feudal chain from the Civil War, unless the vassal Senators specifically state otherwise in a public thread. So long as it is limited to changes to the provinces, settlements, armies, Oaths of Loyalty, and retinue of the Senators signing the Peace Treaty, it will be considered binding law. All terms of a Peace Treaty that go beyond these limits, particularly those that increase a Senator’s influence or powers beyond those allowed by the rules, will only be binding if adopted by a two-thirds majority of the Senate at the next normal session. Individual Senators may unilaterally remove themselves from a Civil War within one turn of the Declaration of War that brought them into it by breaking all Oaths of Loyalty that tie them to any Senator involved in the War and by publicly declaring Neutrality. Neutrality cannot be claimed by a declarer, a target, or any Senator who has been involved in a PvP Battle during that specific Civil War.
Proposed: TinCow5.3 – Ending a Civil War: A Civil War will end when all Senators on one side are dead or all living Senators on both sides publicly agree to a Peace Treaty. A Senator's public agreement to a Peace Treaty will also remove all Senators below him in his feudal chain from the Civil War, unless the vassal Senators specifically state otherwise in a public thread. So long as it is limited to changes to the provinces, settlements, armies, Oaths of Loyalty, and retinue of the Senators signing the Peace Treaty, it will be considered binding law. All terms of a Peace Treaty that go beyond these limits, particularly those that increase a Senator’s influence or powers beyond those allowed by the rules, will only be binding if adopted by a two-thirds majority of the Senate at the next normal session. Individual Senators may unilaterally remove themselves from a Civil War within one turn of the Declaration of War that brought them into it by breaking all Oaths of Loyalty that tie them to any Senator involved in the War and by publicly declaring Neutrality. Neutrality cannot be claimed by a declarer, a target, or any Senator who has been involved in a PvP Battle during that specific Civil War.
Once again voting as an unaligned, anonymous senator (I abstained from voting on edicts, but wanted my 2 cents in on rule changes).
I made a mistake. I voted both Yes and No to RC 7.1. That No vote is incorrect and it should be actually Yes to RC 7.2
Hope this makes sense.
Hope this makes sense.
The voting period will be extended for a further 24 hours, because I just realized I haven't uploaded the save game with the retinue/trait changes and can't access it from work. Since the game can't move for the moment anyway, I'll give an additional 24 hours for the remaining 1/3 of the players who have not yet voted to get their votes in.
Voting will be open until 16:00 GMT on Friday, December 12th. There will be no further extensions.
Voting will be open until 16:00 GMT on Friday, December 12th. There will be no further extensions.
Crap, I got some of the RCs mixed up. 
Ah well....
Ah well....
Originally Posted by Zim:
Crap, I got some of the RCs mixed up.
Ah well....
If you made an error, simply post what your correct vote should be in here and I will take it into account in the final tally.Crap, I got some of the RCs mixed up.
Ah well....
CA 7.1: Yes - AussieGiant (2), deguerra, flyd, GeneralHankerchief, Ituralde (4), KnightnDay, Northnovas, pevergreen, rossahh, Tristan de Castelreng (2), woad&fangs, YLC, Zim - 18
CA 7.1: No - Cecil XIX (3), Ibn-Khaldun, Ramses II CP, Rowan, Smowz: 7
CA 7.1 passes.
CA 7.2: Yes - Andres, AussieGiant (2), Cecil XIX (3), deguerra, flyd, GeneralHankerchief, Ibn-Khaldun, Ituralde (4), KnightnDay, Northnovas, Ramses II CP, rossahh, Rowan, woad&fangs, YLC, Zim - 22
CA 7.2: No - Smowz, Tristan de Castelreng (2) - 3
CA 7.2 passes
Edict 7.1 passes.
Edict 7.2 passes.
RC 7.1: Yes - Andres, Ibn-Khaldun, Northnovas, pevergreen, Ramses II CP, Rowan, TheFlax, Tristan de Castelreng, woad&fangs, YLC - 10
RC 7.1: No - AussieGiant, Cecil XIX, deguerra, flyd, GeneralHankerchief, Ituralde, KnightnDay, rossahh, Smowz, Zim - 10
RC 7.1 fails.
RC 7.2: Yes - AussieGiant, Cecil XIX, Ramses II CP, Smowz, YLC, Ibn-Khaldun - 6
RC 7.2: No - flyd, GeneralHankerchief, Ituralde, Northnovas, pevergreen, rossahh, Rowan - 7
RC 7.2 fails.
RC 7.3: Yes - Cecil XIX, Northnovas, Ramses II CP, Smowz, YLC, Zim - 6
RC 7.3: No - AussieGiant, flyd, GeneralHankerchief, Ituralde, pevergreen, rossahh, Rowan - 7
RC 7.3 fails.
RC 7.4 passes.
CA 7.1: No - Cecil XIX (3), Ibn-Khaldun, Ramses II CP, Rowan, Smowz: 7
CA 7.1 passes.
CA 7.2: Yes - Andres, AussieGiant (2), Cecil XIX (3), deguerra, flyd, GeneralHankerchief, Ibn-Khaldun, Ituralde (4), KnightnDay, Northnovas, Ramses II CP, rossahh, Rowan, woad&fangs, YLC, Zim - 22
CA 7.2: No - Smowz, Tristan de Castelreng (2) - 3
CA 7.2 passes
Edict 7.1 passes.
Edict 7.2 passes.
RC 7.1: Yes - Andres, Ibn-Khaldun, Northnovas, pevergreen, Ramses II CP, Rowan, TheFlax, Tristan de Castelreng, woad&fangs, YLC - 10
RC 7.1: No - AussieGiant, Cecil XIX, deguerra, flyd, GeneralHankerchief, Ituralde, KnightnDay, rossahh, Smowz, Zim - 10
RC 7.1 fails.
RC 7.2: Yes - AussieGiant, Cecil XIX, Ramses II CP, Smowz, YLC, Ibn-Khaldun - 6
RC 7.2: No - flyd, GeneralHankerchief, Ituralde, Northnovas, pevergreen, rossahh, Rowan - 7
RC 7.2 fails.
RC 7.3: Yes - Cecil XIX, Northnovas, Ramses II CP, Smowz, YLC, Zim - 6
RC 7.3: No - AussieGiant, flyd, GeneralHankerchief, Ituralde, pevergreen, rossahh, Rowan - 7
RC 7.3 fails.
RC 7.4 passes.
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