Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
Obama rose like a rocket in one of the most corrupt parts of a pretty corrupt / plutocratic system. Did he do this as he was such a nice, honest person who would clean house? No. He made deals and traded influence with the best of them, but is bright enough to manage to get away clean.

In a leader I want one who is a devious bastard and is good at what he does - as that's who he's going to meet on the world stage and also in his own country. I don't want a Neville Chamberlin who is open and honest, but a complete berk. Of course the hope is that these "skills" are used for the benefit of the country and not to its detriment.


According to this North Dakota is the worst. Hard to believe that the most disfunctional state government in the US, New York, isn't leading this category too, but not for lack of trying. I guess they just have better defense lawyers and a more complacent definition of corruption.