favorite faction in XL or Vanilla

**Brandy Blue** · 12-12-2008, 03:00

Originally Posted by Tristrem

In vanilla i enjoyed a early Russian camp.

Its been a while since I played vanilla, but I thought there was no early Russian option, only an unplayable People of Novgorod. Perhaps you meant something else?

**Don Esteban** · 12-12-2008, 10:39

I really enjoyed two campaigns, Armenia (take antioch and Tripoli and your economy is great) and Bohemia - penned in, limited cash but so many options on which way to expand and a different game every time. Also i've just returned to the French on GA and am enjoying it although I do find the unit choice a little dull on early.

**Gyrfalcon** · 12-12-2008, 18:44

I would repeat recommendations for the Teutonic Order and Sicily. They are by no means the hardest factions, but both are very good fun. The Order lends itself well to a touch of role-play, while with Sicily you can strike at anywhere in the Mediterranean, while having a protected homeland.

**Fagar** · 12-12-2008, 22:29

Yes the Sicilians are fun to play.
You can sit back safe and secure on your islands and watch what is happenning in the world.
Pick your targets when they are weakened and strike.
I do not play as the Sicilians very often but when I do it is not uncommom for me to end up with little pockets of my faction in 4-5 places and then the challenge becomes uniting them all and fighting for loyalty and security because of the isolaion of my outremer territories.

**Lokiss** · 12-13-2008, 09:26

Denmark.

**chris34au** · 12-13-2008, 13:09

can you build Italian Light Infantry and Gothic Units with Sicily? i' i've never tried Sicily or Genoa but i really liked Venice. the only thing that i hated about Venice was the Crusades constantly passing through there. it seems like it wouldn't be nearly as bad with Sicily.

**Gyrfalcon** · 12-13-2008, 16:19

Unfortunately you cannot; Sicily gets the basic Catholic unit roster. They have a slightly more interesting roster in XL, but their best point is that you can pursue almost any strategy with them.

**chris34au** · 12-15-2008, 00:24

Originally Posted by Gyrfalcon

Unfortunately you cannot; Sicily gets the basic Catholic unit roster. They have a slightly more interesting roster in XL, but their best point is that you can pursue almost any strategy with them.

thanks. i wasn't really sure. i'd started a campaign with Sicily awhile back and i noticed that after i built a castle, i still couldn't train Italian Infantry but i wasn't sure if it was because i needed to build something else(spearmaker's guild) or if it was because Sicily couldn't train them.

**Brandy Blue** · 12-16-2008, 01:39

Originally Posted by chris34au

can you build Italian Light Infantry and Gothic Units with Sicily? i' i've never tried Sicily or Genoa but i really liked Venice. the only thing that i hated about Venice was the Crusades constantly passing through there. it seems like it wouldn't be nearly as bad with Sicily.

Can I persuade you to try the Gnome editor? I think you can download it from here:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...=n&pp=5&page=6

Its easy to use, and you can make any units you want available to whoever you want. Just back up any file before you change it, just in case. Matter of fact, I might try Sicily modded for ILI and Gothic units myself.

**chris34au** · 12-16-2008, 13:14

Originally Posted by Brandy Blue

Can I persuade you to try the Gnome editor? I think you can download it from here:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...=n&pp=5&page=6

Its easy to use, and you can make any units you want available to whoever you want. Just back up any file before you change it, just in case. Matter of fact, I might try Sicily modded for ILI and Gothic units myself.

thanks so much for the link. i keep reading about the gnome editor but i didn't know where to find it and i wasn't sure if it'd be very user friendly, if i did. i can't wait to check this out.