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    I'm doing some introspecting thumbing through my good book and I came across the story of Job. I heard this story as a child in sunday school and couldn't wrap my head around it but now I think I finally get it.

    I really like this story.

    ]In ancient times, east of Palestine, there lived a righteous man by the name of Job. He was a just and good man, who always strove to please God throughout his life. The Lord rewarded him for his piety with great wealth. He had many hundreds of large and thousands of small cattle. His large and close family of seven sons and three daughters comforted him.

    But the Devil was jealous of Job. He began to vilify him before God, "Doth Job fear God for nothing?... But put forth Thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse Thee to Thy face." Then God, in order to reveal to all how faithful Job was to Him and in order to teach people patience in their sufferings, permitted the Devil to take away all of Job’s possessions. One day robbers came and drove away all his cattle, slew his servants, and a terrible tornado from the desert destroyed the house in which Job’s children had gathered together, killing them all. Job not only did not complain against God, but he said, "God gave, and God hath taken away, blessed be the name of the Lord."


    The Devil, put to shame, was not satisfied with this. Again he began to slander Job, "All a man hath will he give for his life. But put forth Thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh (that is, strike him down with disease), and he will curse Thee to Thy face." God permitted the Devil to deprive Job even of his health, and Job was stricken with the most terrible disease — leprosy. Then even his wife began to persuade him to complain against God. His friends, instead of consolation, only further grieved the innocent sufferer with their unjust suspicions. But Job remained firm, did not lose hope in the mercy of God and only begged the Lord to testify that he was suffering in innocence.

    In his discourse with his friends, Job prophesied about the Redeemer and of the future resurrection: I know that my Redeemer liveth and on the last day He shall raise from the dust this my corrupted skin, and in my flesh I shall see God. I shall see Him myself; mine eyes, and not the eyes of another, shall behold Him (Job 19:25-27, Septuagint).

    After this, God, having shown to all the example of devotion and long-suffering in His servant Job, appeared Himself and commanded his friends, who had regarded Job as a great sinner, to ask for prayers from him for themselves. God rewarded His faithful servant. Job regained his health. He had seven more sons and three daughters, gained back twice as much cattle as he had before, and lived another one hundred and forty years in honor, quietly, piously and happily.
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    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Hmmm, stubbornly endeavoring to persevere against cattle rustlers, tornados, armed robbery, family rubbed out. Sounds like a Texan's plot for a John Wayne movie.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    OMG, Job is an ancient Texan! No wonder you love that story!
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    God murders Job's family in order to satisfy a bet with the Devil. He kills a pious man's family in order to impress Evil incarnate.

    Cute!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    God murders Job's family in order to satisfy a bet with the Devil. He kills a pious man's family in order to impress Evil incarnate.

    Cute!
    You have missed the point entirely
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Perhaps. But maybe I derive a different point and a different conclusion from this story than others do.

    I'm not mocking you, and if you like I can leave your thread alone in peace... my loud mouth and ever-copious opinions are stated plainly elsewhere. It's not my intention to make this place hostile to people of faith.

    I have other examples of Biblical cruelty and horrible behavior condoned by the Old Testament God, but perhaps it would be better in another thread.

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    Yeah the morale of this story is that even if you do everything right your still liable to get screwed. And that god doesn't give a about you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    You have missed the point entirely
    What, that God loves a stoic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spino View Post
    What, that God loves a stoic Texan?

    Fixed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito View Post
    Hmmm, stubbornly endeavoring to persevere against cattle rustlers, tornados, armed robbery, family rubbed out. Sounds like a Texan's plot for a John Wayne movie.
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    OMG, Job is an ancient Texan! No wonder you love that story!
    Hahahaha. That's good.

    I like the story of Job.
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    To the OP, imagine that instead of your story saying "God" and "Satan". It said "Thor" and "Loki". Would you feel the same about it?
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