How should kids react in a school shooting?

[Louis VI the Fat]

If I look back at Virginia Tech...what if five guys, or ten guys, had gone after the shooter? He can't stop them. He can take out a few, but he will be subdued. It would've saved lives.

It is always frustrating that one guy with a gun can hold fifty, or five hundred people ransom. Quite unbearable. Disregarding al the if's and but's of Rambo fantasies and the danger of lynch mobs and permanently alarmed and scared kids in constant war mode, the point remains that a massive combined attack will take out anybody and will save lives in certain instances. (Flight 93? )
It is better to die on your feet than to die on your knees.



In a weird twist of argument, I am an avid watcher of wildlife films. It always strikes me how five lions can attack a herd of three-thousand zebra. That's an awful lot of beef and hooves. With some co-ordination, the lions would be nowhere. In fact, a few small, weak apes thought pretty much that one million years ago. They got themselves a few sticks and pebbles, learned how to co-ordinate counter attacks, and now every predator in Africa runs for cover when he sees humans.

[Husar]

If I look back at Virginia Tech...what if five guys, or ten guys, had gone after the shooter? He can't stop them. He can take out a few, but he will be subdued. It would've saved lives.

Yes, you go first, I'll be right behind you.

The problem is obviously not about guns or children, rules or even the shooters, the biggest problem is obviously that classrooms lack doors.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Yes, you go first, I'll be right behind you.

It goes without saying that I consider going first an honour and a sacred duty. My personal sense of sacrifice is so strong that in the interest of all I shall make the urge to go first subordinate to the need to coordinate you lot though.

[Fragony]

Argh. School-shootings, Shootings at schools. Isn't it a bit overreacting to call it a school shooting, as if it isn't something that hardly ever happens why make cult out of nothing.

[Tribesman]

Oh, and about kids not stopping a gunman;

Yes they got lucky and tackled him when his gun was empty and he was having trouble reloading it .

Yes, you go first, I'll be right behind you.

Some bastard did that to me once , while two of us jumped the gamekeeper the little git ran in the other direction

[Papewaio]

Fire escape?
Single door, then windows.

Better still multiple doors on opposite sides of the room allowing outside access.

Simply put make it hard for fire or firearms to trap the kids.

[HoreTore]

One exit from a classroom? What genius thought that was a good idea?

Forget about shooters, what about fire? What idiots do you people have building your schools?

[LittleGrizzly]

TBH i think most of my comprehensive (12-16) classrooms only had the one door, the windows in most of them would have been very hard to get out of, do-able but it would take a minute for me and im fairly agile, any fat kid would have just got stuck.

Im unsure about this... on the one hand surely it is better for someone to try and tackle the shooter if people are stuck in a classroom with him anyway, though i really don't see 10 year olds doing too much, a few older teenagers perhaps...... on the other hand you don't want to encourage teenage boys to have rambo fanatasies about taking down a shooter, trying to tackle the guy should be a last resort, i would tell my kid to get the hell out of there

of course if it was me in the school i would be rambo, but all boys like to think like that, and that thinking shouldn't be encouraged in kids...

[Husar]

Forget about shooters, what about fire? What idiots do you people have building your schools?

Possibly Germans, the old buildings of my high school also had only one exit AFAIK, at least those above ground level, the new buildings offer seperate fire exits though. It's definitely not a bad idea.