What would you like to see in an Add-on

[Megas Methuselah]

WWI happened 15 years after 1899 SO WHY IS EVERYONE MENTIONING IT???? IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 1899.

LISTEN CAREFULLY!!! THE MAXIM GUN WASNT USED UNTIL THE FIRST WORLD WAR!!!!

You're the one who first mentioned it. The sheep all probably saw you say this and decided you wanted the game to extend to WW1. I, myself, wouldn't mind 1899 (along with a world map).

Instead of coming up with decent suggestions, you all whack eachother over the head with history facts. This isnt about remaking history. Its about having fun...Remember that word. If all games were linked to realism and history they would be so boring nobody would ever play them.

CA stated many times that they take history seriously, at least at the very start of the game (from whereon you can make your own history, such as researchin technology before it has been made in real history). And I disagree with your last sentence: Europa Barbarorum was a spectacular success.

Fine there were machine guns in 1729 or whatever. The fact is I think it would be nice to just go that little bit further and have the whole map to play about with. I think it would be cool for me personally because I like in depth strategy games. I like micro management, I actually like to think about what im doing. Not just ctrl +A click victory as someone pointed out. (Which I would assume is most people strategy on here.)

I agree with almost everything here. However, I never heard of the ctrl + A thing until very recently. That must be one boring strategy, and I doubt most people use it.

The fact is if people cannot contribute anything positive to a thread then they shouldnt respond at all.

Just calm down, and look at what some noble people said. There were significant postive contributions to this thread. And the ones that aren't "postive" are mainly constructive criticism. Relax, and learn from what you read here, and don't get angry, as it is very enlightening information. For my part, I've learnt a lot since I first joined these forums.

[Sheogorath]

Uhm, actually the first MAJOR use of the Maxim gun was the Russo-Japanese war. 1904-05. It was INVENTED in 1884. A bit before 1899 ;)

The GATLING gun, which was the first automatic weapon, the Gatling Gun, was patented in 1861, and accepted by the USA for service in '66.

Essentially, what I'm saying here, is that Wikipedia, while not the most accurate source of information on the series of tubes we know as the interweb, is a good place to start before you go around shouting at people about things when a simple link can resolve everything with no shouting or swearing at all.


Now, on the subject of expansions...don't we have a topic on this?

But I'll go ahead and list my suggestions:
Texas Revolution
Civil War
1812, Napoleonic Wars, and that sort of stuff in general
Something set in Asia. Maybe focused on China when the European powers were carving it up.
A mod specifically focusing on the Seven Years War, Great Northern War, and other major events of the 18th century in detail.
Maybe something extending the timeline back a bit. 'Armada: Total War', anybody? ;)

If CA doesn't take care of it, I expect the modders will. They're a great bunch :D

[Megas Methuselah]

@Sheo's suggestions:

Nice. ALL ON ONE MAP!!! WOOT!!!

[Polemists]

We do have at least 2 other expansion threads if not more. While I don't think there's a only one thread per topic rule on this forum, this is just a natural state of things. With game being delayed another month, expect alot of repeats as people try to kill time.

Now on to more important things.

My point was merely to indicate as some others picked up, that CA should not leap to far because once down that path it sets a dangerous precidents. Now gameplay wise, of course CA will not toss in nukes, but time wise if you look at the leaps, it was in the frame. My mere point was that similiar techs that would drastically alter the way TW is played

As others have stated while archers and ranged combat have always been a important part of TW so has melee and the further you move the less melee you will get.

For instance if you look at the dev diaries a few of the current animations still have swords being used in a combat fashion, the further you move, the more they become a officer side piece rather then a weapon.


I'm not saying they can't go there, I'm saying they shouldn't, because even amongst TW devs now there seems to be a idea that they could do a WW2 timeframe game and be okay, and I am 100% opposed to that as well.

Rome moved backwards in time, MTW2 forward, ETW forward. I would prefer if it took another jump back before moving forward again before we run out of timelines. We are already playing a 200 turn game in ETW, I'd rather not play a 100 turn game of 1900-1950

[Fisherking]

I would much prefer to see the 1500s and 1600s included in the game and a mad dash for colonization.

Another thing, why do we just get these tacked on campaigns. Why not just expand the game in time and units into the main campaign?

Seeing the game go into the late 1800s is problematic. Trench Warfare took hold during the American Civil War. Formations were just large targets and small unit tactics became more important. We know what put an end to trench warfare…
Now as much as I love tanks they are not something I need to see just yet in the total war series. And I would rather see triremes than dreadnoughts there.

The reason for that is that you need to control much smaller units or even individual pieces of equipment when you move into the late 19th and 20th century. The size of the battle field would be huge and not so very dense. I don’t think controlling a panzer corps vs. a guards tank army would be a real option.

I wouldn’t have minded it going into the 1820s as it was originally announced. Though with the future tech possibilities in this game you could still wind up with repeating rifles or at least cap and ball firearms by that time.

I don’t know if it is a possibility with the game (as the AI has always seemed to know where all of your forces were) but I would love to be able to use surprise tactics to draw an enemy into a killing zone or some how fool them into thinking my forces are larger than what they are. That would mean some sort of hidden movement and fog of battle on the battle map I suppose…

Anyway just killing time until the game comes out…

[Polemists]

Another thing, why do we just get these tacked on campaigns. Why not just expand the game in time and units into the main campaign?

Though CA has never stated it I think the reason for this is two fold.


First ease, it is much easier for CA to make all these units and factions seperate then have to make them and plug them into the game.


Second, marketing. I think it's just what people seem to prefer at the moment.


Just my assumptions.