Is EUIII better than EUII?

[Jolt]

A word of warning, though. The MMP mod adds an absurd level of complexity to a game that was already one of the most complex that I've ever played.

...You obviously never played Victoria, nor even looked at the game. :P Victoria must make EU 3 (Never played it), look like a baby's sandbox.

[CountArach]

...You obviously never played Victoria, nor even looked at the game. :P Victoria must make EU 3 (Never played it), look like a baby's sandbox.

Yeah Victoria: Revolutions is, without a doubt, the most complex Paradox game ever made

[Ignoramus]

Yeah Victoria: Revolutions is, without a doubt, the most complex Paradox game ever made

Maybe that's why I never liked it. The fact that I didn't have a manual didn't help.

[The_Doctor]

Yeah Victoria: Revolutions is, without a doubt, the most complex game ever made

I disagree, I think that supremeruler 2020 is the most complex games ever made.

[Jolt]

Maybe that's why I never liked it. The fact that I didn't have a manual didn't help.

This was my manual. Before, I couldn't grasp most subjects Victoria handled. After that, I basically started playing and understanding the concepts behind Victoria.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...d.php?t=305484

It's the AAR "Power by Production: A VIP:R 0.1 Prussia", and it's purposes was indeed to teach the basic concepts behind VIP, or really the game in general. Those who don't know the game and read the AAR will surely become acquainted with the degree of complexity of the game. :)

[naut]

Hehe, yeah Victoria can be pretty overwhelming at first. But, once you get the hang of it it is very rewarding.

[Meneldil]

While we're at it, anybody experiences really slow performances with EU:III?

I for some reason was able to play it for a whole afternoon (vanilla 1.3, NA 2.2 and IN 3.1). Then I tried to install MM, just to give it a shot (don't think I could have handled everything immediatly, but heh), and the game turned into a slug fest.

I got rid of MM, which did not improve anything, so I uninstalled the game and the 2 expansions, reinstalled them, and here am I, wondering why the game is so slow although it worked perfectly fine yesterday.

[Husar]

Don't know, are the mod files uninstalled properly?

I'm also playing EU3 as can be seen in the screenshot topic and I think I prefer the vanilla version.
I like expanding a bit instead of sitting around, watching my technology sliders slowly grow like grass and generally being there because whenever I move, 3 or more superpowers want to crush me, and yes, that is my situation without any mods to make it even harder...

Maybe I should return to catholicism and convert all my provinces, hmm...

[CountArach]

Usually deleting all the files in the map/cache folder will speed the game up a lot - it just means it takes a wile to load up at start up.

[Jolt]

Yeah Victoria: Revolutions is, without a doubt, the most complex Paradox game ever made

It makes it so satisfying to play it well and became the sole superpower (Giant Germany = Germany + Bohemia + Austria (Including Slovenia and Trieste Peninsula, which have given me a great help in my wars) + Plus large parts of France (France has basically been partitioned between me and two of my Satelites) + Every country in Central and Eastern Europe being my Satelites + the entire Africa as a giant colony except Ethiopia and Liberia) and sheer Prestigial, Industrial and Military Superpower (My African colonial army has something like 60 divisions, of which are leaded by the regular Boer divisions/I have twice as many ships (And Dreadnoughts) as the UK (I'm somewhere near the 200 ships mark), being leading producer in 98% of the manufactured goods and largest exporter by miles and miles away (I'm playing VIP, so the UK (Which no longer has Scotland or Northern England) and British India are two different nations).
I reckon that if I stopped exporting all my products to the market, the entire world economy would plummet and that would create the greatest depression ever.
It's so fun to have achieved such a domination that I can actually collapse the global markets :P
Most my population has been industrialized, since with advances in technology and the gigantic African colony, I don't need German people working in unmanufactured goods production. :p