Is EUIII better than EUII?

**Jolt** · 12-24-2008, 14:22

Originally Posted by Ignoramus

Maybe that's why I never liked it. The fact that I didn't have a manual didn't help.

This was my manual. Before, I couldn't grasp most subjects Victoria handled. After that, I basically started playing and understanding the concepts behind Victoria.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...d.php?t=305484

It's the AAR "Power by Production: A VIP:R 0.1 Prussia", and it's purposes was indeed to teach the basic concepts behind VIP, or really the game in general. Those who don't know the game and read the AAR will surely become acquainted with the degree of complexity of the game. :)

**naut** · 01-02-2009, 18:09

Hehe, yeah Victoria can be pretty overwhelming at first. But, once you get the hang of it it is very rewarding.

**Meneldil** · 02-22-2009, 17:31

While we're at it, anybody experiences really slow performances with EU:III?

I for some reason was able to play it for a whole afternoon (vanilla 1.3, NA 2.2 and IN 3.1). Then I tried to install MM, just to give it a shot (don't think I could have handled everything immediatly, but heh), and the game turned into a slug fest.

I got rid of MM, which did not improve anything, so I uninstalled the game and the 2 expansions, reinstalled them, and here am I, wondering why the game is so slow although it worked perfectly fine yesterday.

**Husar** · 02-22-2009, 18:33

Don't know, are the mod files uninstalled properly?

I'm also playing EU3 as can be seen in the screenshot topic and I think I prefer the vanilla version.
I like expanding a bit instead of sitting around, watching my technology sliders slowly grow like grass and generally being there because whenever I move, 3 or more superpowers want to crush me, and yes, that is my situation without any mods to make it even harder...

Maybe I should return to catholicism and convert all my provinces, hmm...

**Meneldil** · 02-22-2009, 19:40

Well, everything had been cleaned properly. I even launched CCleaner, just in case.

I blame this freaking Vista crap and its huge RAM requirement. I currently have 2gb on my laptop, which is enough to run NWN2 or M2TW, but apparently, EUIII is having issues :-/

Too bad, the game looks fun :-(

**Husar** · 02-22-2009, 20:50

So does my laptop and it's running fine, on Vista, bought it on Steam even and have some stuff running in the background.

The only problem is I'm too bad for the game, or let's just say I learned that I wasted some 15-20 hours of playing by making myself the (almost) only protestant in a catholic world, which is like being a piece of flesh among a bunch of vultures.

**Meneldil** · 02-23-2009, 03:21

Do'h found out the issue, or rather, how to fix it: for some reasons, I have to start a game and resign before being able to play properly.

So yeah, tadam, the French Kingdom is on its way to global domination.

**CountArach** · 02-23-2009, 04:52

Usually deleting all the files in the map/cache folder will speed the game up a lot - it just means it takes a wile to load up at start up.

**Meneldil** · 02-23-2009, 07:40

Well, it's working fine right now.

I tried a Sengoku Jidai game on MM, and promptly got my arse kicked. So back to France on vanilla.

And even there, with admitedely the easiest faction, I'm having a hard time. Got stuck in a war with Austria and Hungary, who ganged up on Bohemia (my ally), while I was slowly taking Venicia's holdings in greece. When I arrived to help the Bohemians, I had to face overwhelming armies, far away from my homeland. I negociated a separate peace with Venicia (got a few losy provinces that will serve as a basis for my futur Levant empire), and I'm now trying to liberate Bohemia from roaming austrian hordes (hopefully Hungary is also fighting with Poland and Lithuania).
My war rating (or however it's called) is at -21%, and I doubt I could get it back into the positive.

**Husar** · 02-23-2009, 22:47

Very interesting.
I have given up that game with brandenburg, tried another one and then gave up again when I noticed even Anhalt can get technologies faster than me.
So I started a game with Mecklenburg and their economy is amazing, ,start out with a free trade level of 3, joined the Hanseatic League, so now I have four and managed to get five merchants into every trade center except Lübeck where my free trade bonuses don't apply, obviously.
I annexed Lüneburg in a small war and now I might want to fight Brunswick, we'll see how well that works.

**TinCow** · 02-23-2009, 23:02

Originally Posted by Meneldil

Well, it's working fine right now.

I tried a Sengoku Jidai game on MM, and promptly got my arse kicked. So back to France on vanilla.

And even there, with admitedely the easiest faction, I'm having a hard time. Got stuck in a war with Austria and Hungary, who ganged up on Bohemia (my ally), while I was slowly taking Venicia's holdings in greece. When I arrived to help the Bohemians, I had to face overwhelming armies, far away from my homeland. I negociated a separate peace with Venicia (got a few losy provinces that will serve as a basis for my futur Levant empire), and I'm now trying to liberate Bohemia from roaming austrian hordes (hopefully Hungary is also fighting with Poland and Lithuania).
My war rating (or however it's called) is at -21%, and I doubt I could get it back into the positive.

I recently gave the Sengoku Jidai a try as well, and I personally think it is pretty poorly done. The game is massively set against the player uniting Japan, which doesn't even make sense since it was done historically. It's not even the initial phase that's bad. That part is fun and realistic, including the Bakufu armies. It's afterwards, once you've united Japan, that you get some absolutely absurd events. One is called The Inner Lords and it is pretty much impossible. When the event fires, ALL of your provinces that have ANY core on them other than your own instantly become occupied by rebels. Not even a siege, they just gain control. These rebels spawn in small stacks, but there are so many of them that you're looking at about 80-100k of rebel troops. For comparison, I could only support about 40k by the time I got to that point, and that was AFTER reloading the game to try and beef up my military more to make a stand. I was only comfortably able to afford 20k within my budget, the 40k put me into debt. Even this wasn't enough and while I eventually started to retake my lands, it took so long that Japan collapsed in the mean time and all of my hard work uniting it evaporated. Basically, it's an absurd scenario designed just to be challenging. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who wasn't a masochist.

Strangely, I found The Knights fun and easy to play with. Despite being a OPM that's inevitably going to be facing down the Ottomans, it's not actually that bad. The special bonuses The Knights get allow them to stay afloat economically and to build up a decent navy. Grabbing some of the other Med islands early on gives enough land to build up a modest army that can be used to raid the Mamluks while they go through their numerous rebellion periods. It's not too hard to get Jerusalem and lots of the coastline in this way. I was eventually able to conquer the entire Middle East with The Knights and convert it all to Catholicism. It's a fun faction to play.