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    Oh, I've definitely had a few good ones.


    There was the time my Spanish king personally led an invasion of Sicilian-owned Naples (I'd lost patience after the Sicilian navy sunk my ship for the umpteenth time ). I drove off the Sicilians in the first battle, but was then unable to repel the counterattack of the combined Sicilian-Papal army that appeared 2 turns later. Lost a lot of good troops, and had to pay a hefty 66,000 florins in ransom to get my king back and the survivors of the second battle.

    Lesson learned: Never, never, never, never, NEVER send your faction leader on a naval invasion....especially when he has no direct heirs at the time.


    Also, I've lost to the friggin' Mongols more times than I can count. Took me months of playing before I realized that I should really stop trying to defend Khazar and pull back to Georgia/Kiev instead.
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    When I was still new to the game, one of my worst defeats was when playing as the Turks and taking on the Byzantine too early on. I remember in one battle, charging 3 units of vanilla HAs uphill at an isolated unit of Treb Archers. The trebs did not let off any volleys but instead charged the HAs downhill and routed them... the rest of the battle went similarly well...

    What was left of this foolish "invasion force" then returned to Rum only to be met by a Byzantine Jedi prince from Trebizond. Which of course resulted in the loss of Rum, in turn resulting in the usual collapse of the castle and demolition of all the best buildings. Next turn the Eggies invaded Syria and/or Lesser Armenia, and it was clearly time for my 2 influence, unhinged loon, good runner, pervert Sultan to emigrate, etc, etc, etc.
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    Had plenty the most spectacular of which when was new and had no idea what all those flags carried by certain units were...

    Just had one in STW when i deployed a force of Naginatas, gunners and SArchers in a flat close to the AI deploy without knowing what the enemy army was - unfortunately it was a spam of WMs that chewed the Naginatas routed the archers and guns and killed the Daimyo that was leading...

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    I've had many but one stands out.

    Bridge battle; got pav arbs, ms, feudal spears/swords and a decent general...how can I lose?

    The attacker is 2 RK's and a pile of garbage.

    The enemy commander charges across the bridge with the other royal in tow; the supporting cast takes its time. My spear unit vapourizes, the militia sergeant sent to engage the royal starts to run; the arbs start to run...shortly the entire army is running for the exits

    All I can say in my defence is...it was a short bridge
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    My my! This thread would inspire my to take up my Turk Campaign again - had I not deleted it!

    I had little idea how commonly defeat was suffered.. I thought I was the only one!

    And I have had many... Mostly caused by generals who refuse to die.

    My worst defeat was in my fourth game or so, when my crusade to Lithuania was defeated, with two of three heirs lost, and as a result my (3)influence King suffered a civil war in his four provinces.
    Yes, the larger-scale consequences were far more traumatic than watching pixels faint on the screen!

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    Some defeats are worth it. For example: Loosing Kazar, let the Mongols have it. There’s only the small matter of defeating the maxed out garrison in the fully upgraded citadel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny View Post
    I've had many but one stands out.

    Bridge battle; got pav arbs, ms, feudal spears/swords and a decent general...how can I lose?

    The attacker is 2 RK's and a pile of garbage.

    The enemy commander charges across the bridge with the other royal in tow; the supporting cast takes its time. My spear unit vapourizes, the militia sergeant sent to engage the royal starts to run; the arbs start to run...shortly the entire army is running for the exits

    All I can say in my defence is...it was a short bridge


    You've reminded me of a disastrous bridge battle I fought yesterday in STW. I had one unit of Yari Samurai in front of the bridge, two units of Teppo (one of these being my 4 star general) and one unit of Cavalry archers, down to about 7 or 8 men. The enemy comprised of two battered units of Yari Cavalry and two units of archers, one at about half strength and the other at almost full strength. I clicked to start the battle then watched as the enemy approached. On panning back to the position of my forces, I found that the Yari Samurai defending the bridge had taken it upon themselves to move further back to the left of my Teppo... dooming us all...

    The Yari cavalry stormed across the bridge straight into my general's Teppo unit (killing him) and proceeded to rout the whole lot. The YS must have "thought" they were either intersecting with another unit or too close to the bridge, though I didn't think they were.

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    The Yari cavalry stormed across the bridge straight into my general's Teppo unit (killing him) and proceeded to rout the whole lot. The YS must have "thought" they were either intersecting with another unit or too close to the bridge, though I didn't think they were.


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