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    master of the pwniverse Member Fragony's Avatar
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    ^-well what the ozzy said

    No one born outside UK should be allowed to live there.

    Any person not born within the UK or within the reasonable limits of descent has no right to live there....


    Look at these two statements. You really can't see the difference?
    Last edited by Fragony; 12-22-2008 at 08:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    ^-well what the ozzy said

    No one born outside UK should be allowed to live there.

    Any person not born within the UK or within the reasonable limits of descent has no right to live there....


    Look at these two statements. You really can't see the difference?
    Ah, we're delving into issues of permission? Ok, I see what the point is. In that case, I you are quite accurate in that (legal) immigration is purely a country allowing other citizens into their borders to change nationalities. I will point out that without such clarification, just issuing such statements can lead to confusion.

    EDIT: I will also point out the whole idea of permission is itself a bit of a sticky issue as well. I could give you written permission to kill me, and you'd very likely still be charged with murder.


    Of course, this really does depend on whether or not you believe humans have inherent rights, and if so, where the line is drawn.

    I believe I am coming to a better understanding of Bopa's first statement- indeed, nobody is entitled to transfer nationalities at will from a legal perspective(at least in my view, and generally legally). I was mis-interpreting it as being anti-immigrationist. Apologies.
    Last edited by seireikhaan; 12-22-2008 at 09:06.
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