Getting pawned by archers...
Btw why are the getai getting pawned by archers that much?i mean...they have the best variety of units,and even have armor,but they die faster then the sweboz...(who have no armor except the bodyguards)
Thats wierd because the dacian where famous for ducking archers(then they attacked the cav,archers and the last poor victems where the inf(there moral sunck,because they saw there backup slaughtered)
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Re: Getting pawned by archers...
( lol pressed enter to fast.....)Originally Posted by Aurgelmir
I just wanted to say,...its a shame that rtw engine doesn't work with old historical war tactics....
Yeah you can move your romans in a chessboard,but in this game with such a wierd enemy AI....doesn't work at all
And for the thraciers...ambush tactics...lol dont start about it...
And thats the prob with rtw,battles are becoming boring,because the only thing you do,is punishing the faults of the enemy AI.
Re: Getting pawned by archers...
The getais didn't have much armor on the EDU file... they have many skills instead...
and the defensive skills didn't count by missile attacks
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Allow me to disagree with what you just stated.
Where did you get that from? Even if that is true, what do you propose? Dancing and matrix-style movements by Dacian units exclusively to prevent them from being hit by arrows?
Maion
Last edited by Maion Maroneios; 12-21-2008 at 17:45.
~Maion
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lol.........not matrix dude...terminator moves are the fashion today...Allow me to disagree with what you just stated.
Where did you get that from? Even if that is true, what do you propose? Dancing and matrix-style movements by Dacian units exclusively to prevent them from being hit by arrows?
Maion
And pls...buy yourself a book about ancient warfair...
Matrix style lol ...think!!!!
They where historically the best ambushers there time....so i dont think they moonwalk there asses to the archers(jezus christ).
And as i wrote allready....its the engine that doesn't allow decent tactics(i didn't propose anything)....So pls next time you respond ...open your eyes and read.
thx ;/
jonge jonge sommige mensen zijn te stom om te lezen
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Aurgelmir, you need to actually cite a specific source if you want to be taken seriously about Getae troops dodging arrows, not this statement of "buy yourself a book about ancient warfare" like the knowledge is commonly known. You just end up sounding like an ass when you should be backing up your arguement with facts, or at least sources. I personally have never heard of Getae troops ducking arrows, but I'm no expert on their martial history. Let's see some evidence.
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lol......really
I dont mean that they DUCKING arrows like jet lee(denk zelf ook eens na)
They where good in hiding....they used nature to there advantage....lol they dont use neo moves
source.."Trajan -Optimus Princeps" by Julian Bennet,read it!!!!!!..order it (ISBN 0-415-24150-2) via Amazon)
And pls do it....because...dont ask me for sources and then you do nothing with it.
greetz.(bah bah bah stelletje onozelen)
Re: Getting pawned by archers...
Eerst degelijk Engels leren, dan mensen dom beginnen noemen...
Calling people stupid just because... Because of what actually?
And what makes you think the Dacians were historically the best ambushers of their time?
The Iberians were good at ambushing and guerilla tactics too... So were the German tribes and some Celtic ones... Pretty much every army that didn't use much armor prefered ambushing and guerilla tactics... And prefered to duck missiles instead of being hit by them...
You are right that the RTW engine isn't good for reproducing ancient tactics, but I don't understand what it is you are aming at..?
And I highly doubt you are the only one here that read books about ancient warfare (of oorlogskermis zoals jij het wenst te noemen).
Edit:Encouraging people to use their brains for once and calling them a bunch of retards isn't going to work either...
Last edited by Mediolanicus; 12-22-2008 at 14:38.
Re: Getting pawned by archers...
I may have even smiled at what you said, mijnheer, but that smile was wiped away by your following statements.
I have read some books about ancient warfare, but surely I haven't read many. Not enough to consider myself an expert on that matter, that is.
Hmmm, have you even heard the word sarcasm or joke at all in your life? Because I wasn't serious when I replied to your post, obviously because of the low level of your statements. I do not say they are wrong, but it's like asking to give Parthians (or I don't remember who else) better kills for arrows because people have found out that they used poisoned tips. I mean, dip an arrowhead in poop and the one that gets hit will die of tetanus (as the person at that specific topic stated), why give only Parthians that attribute? It's unfair for the rest, just because you can't stand the fact that you are getting pawned by archers
Hmmm, they where good, yes, but the best? That's debateable, my friend. Even books speculate about that matter, meaning their infarmation is not (always) the truth. Reading one book (which I'm almost 100% it's your case as well) about something doesn't make you an expert on a matter, just as it doesn't make me one.
Some people (you included, it seems sadly) don't know how to properly read books, it seems. You first read many books of a specific matter, collect the various ideas presented in each of one and at last create a solid idea and opinion about it. Only then can you speak of something, in other cases you either zip it when the specific subject of your studies is brought up, or you just state the limited information you know and honestly hope (at least I do) that you get corrected. The ancient Greeks said that semi-knowledge is worse than no knowledge at all, remember that my friend.
Well, I read what you wrote but obviously you don't really know what you're typing yourself. Or rather, you knowledge of English is so restricted that you cannot materialize your thoughts into words that make sense to others. Note that English isn't my mother language as well and that my knowledge of it is far from good (at least in my opinion), but I try my best. Give it a shot as well, mate
Tch, tch now that wasn't really nice, was it sir? This is like talking behind my back, but I'm positive you didn't know that I'm half Dutch as well. What you just was very dumb, very dumb indeed. I'm not threatening you or posing like a macho or anything, but believe me when I tell you that you wouldn't get away with this if this was a RL conversation. But then again, it's easy to hide behind a computer screen and talk as much as you want, isn't it? I pity you sir, for what you are.
I know I said much and sorry if I sounded offensive, because that really wasn't my intention. I am still open to an apology though, but that is completely up to you.
Maion
Last edited by Maion Maroneios; 12-22-2008 at 14:50.
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Ik zei niet dom,maar stom...leer lezen...(de 2 hier)(schijnbaar nodig hier)
Woord: stom (bijv. naamw., -)
Synoniem van stom: afschuwelijk (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: afstompend (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: bot (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: dom (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: eentonig (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: geestdodend (bijv. naamw.).
Synoniem van stom: onbenullig (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: onnozel (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: onverstandig (bijv. naamw.).
Synoniem van stom: overbluft (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: paf (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: perplex (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: saai (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: schaapachtig (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: sprakeloos (bijv. naamw.).
Synoniem van stom: stomverbaasd (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: suf (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: uilig (overig.)
Synoniem van stom: uilig (overig.)
Synoniem van stom: uilig (overig.)
Synoniem van stom: zonder geluid (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: zwakhoofdig (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van stom: zwijgend (bijv. naamw.)
Woord: dom (bijv. naamw., -)
Een antoniem van dom is glad
Synoniem van dom: achterlijk (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: afgestompt (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: bot (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: breinloos (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: domkerk (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: flauw (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: geesteloos (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: hersenloos (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: idioot (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: kathedraal (zelfst. naamw.).
Synoniem van dom: munster (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: oenig (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: onbenullig (bijv. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: onnozel (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: onverstandig (bijv. naamw.).
Synoniem van dom: schaapachtig (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: simpel (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: simpel (overig.)
Synoniem van dom: simpel (overig.)
Synoniem van dom: simpel (overig.)
Synoniem van dom: stom (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: stompzinnig (bijv. naamw.).
Synoniem van dom: stupide (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: suf (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: verstandeloos (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: zot (zelfst. naamw.)
Synoniem van dom: zwakhoofdig (zelfst. naamw.)
kun je nou het verschill zien....danke je wel jong.....nooit te oud om te leren
En nadat ik 5uur heb liggen eikelen met mods en forum lezen...ja dan kan het gebeuren dat mijn engels niet meer zo goed is.Mijn excuus hiervoor....(jonge jonge)
En daarom heb ik het ook in het nederlands geschreven...omdat ik niemand wil beledigen.En zouden ze het wel kunnen lezen....nou ben blij dan kan je nederlands...toch? lol
Zo en dan nu....de uitleg
Zoals je weet hebben de germanen en de celten...meer onder elkaar gevochten dan tegen andere naties(ik denk dat je al weet waar ik op uit ben)zo hun tactiek...was bijna altijd hetzelfde
En de daciers....ja die hebben altijd vijanden uit verschillende naties gehad....gezien hun leef locatie.
Zei moesten hun tactiecen aanpassen om zich passend(of niet)te verdedigen(of aan te vallen)
Je hebt gelijk...dat het er meer waren die zo gevochten hebben,maar in contrast met de daciers kun je dat echt niet vergelijken.
en weer........"Trajan -Optimus Princeps" by Julian Bennet....sinds ik niet de enige ben die over oorlogskermis leest....een aanrader...
En ja....waar aim ik op........als je GOED had gelezen...aimde ik nergens op.....Het was een mening...
Als je weer de synomienen nodig hebt....give me a call bro...
Re: Getting pawned by archers...
You should reread before you post...
Last edited by Mediolanicus; 12-22-2008 at 15:21.
Re: Getting pawned by archers...
Stop posting in Dutch ok? Post in English if you can't don't, you don't see me posting in Armenian or Dutch do you?
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William Saroyan, 1935.
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Re: Getting pawned by archers...
Its putting me a smile on my face...(that you actually can understand dutch),and its not my intend to insult you or somebody lolI may have even smiled at what you said, mijnheer, but that smile was wiped away by your following statements.
I have read some books about ancient warfare, but surely I haven't read many. Not enough to consider myself an expert on that matter, that is.
Hmmm, have you even heard the word sarcasm or joke at all in your life? Because I wasn't serious when I replied to your post, obviously because of the low level of your statements. I do not say they are wrong, but it's like asking to give Parthians (or I don't remember who else) better kills for arrows because people have found out that they used poisoned tips. I mean, dip an arrowhead in poop and the one that gets hit will die of tetanus (as the person at that specific topic stated), why give only Parthians that attribute? It's unfair for the rest, just because you can't stand the fact that you are getting pawned by archers
Hmmm, they where good, yes, but the best? That's debateable, my friend. Even books speculate about that matter, meaning their infarmation is not (always) the truth. Reading one book (which I'm almost 100% it's your case as well) about something doesn't make you an expert on a matter, just as it doesn't make me one.
Some people (you included, it seems sadly) don't know how to properly read books, it seems. You first read many books of a specific matter, collect the various ideas presented in each of one and at last create a solid idea and opinion about it. Only then can you speak of something, in other cases you either zip it when the specific subject of your studies is brought up, or you just state the limited information you know and honestly hope (at least I do) that you get corrected. The ancient Greeks said that semi-knowledge is worse than no knowledge at all, remember that my friend.
Well, I read what you wrote but obviously you don't really know what you're typing yourself. Or rather, you knowledge of English is so restricted that you cannot materialize your thoughts into words that make sense to others. Note that English isn't my mother language as well and that my knowledge of it is far from good (at least in my opinion), but I try my best. Give it a shot as well, mate
Tch, tch now that wasn't really nice, was it sir? This is like talking behind my back, but I'm positive you didn't know that I'm half Dutch as well. What you just was very dumb, very dumb indeed. I'm not threatening you or posing like a macho or anything, but believe me when I tell you that you wouldn't get away with this if this was a RL conversation. But then again, it's easy to hide behind a computer screen and talk as much as you want, isn't it? I pity you sir, for what you are.
I know I said much and sorry if I sounded offensive, because that really wasn't my intention. I am still open to an apology though, but that is completely up to you.
Maion
About the sarcasm my friend....read the line terminator moves...i was making jokes also....hahaha
yeah my english....i really can say your right about that.But...i cant force others to learn german,russian or dutch...so i have to do it with my bad english.So are you...
Lol dont wrote it because i was getting pawned by archers....i wrote it,because i think rtw is lacking tactical approach.(next time i shut the fukk up,and write nothing...only gettin childish behavior here:(
Nice to see that you know me that much....but no...wasn't the only book i read in my live(my english suck i know) to be honest...you really have see my collection.Even have a bibel dating 1809 in good shape.Have the first edition in german and latin of dantes inferno.(with first edition i mean first press)
Both of my parents are collecting books there whole life...i get alot from them...
so...i can say i have read a book or 2
Some people (you included, it seems sadly) don't know how to properly read books, it seems. You first read many books of a specific matter, collect the various ideas presented in each of one and at last create a solid idea and opinion about it. Only then can you speak of something, in other cases you either zip it when the specific subject of your studies is brought up, or you just state the limited information you know and honestly hope (at least I do) that you get corrected. The ancient Greeks said that semi-knowledge is worse than no knowledge at all, remember that my friend.
Thats why the ancient greek excisted so long..??? lol--sarcasm-- :/
All of our knowledge is semi-knowledge....because we weren't there!! think about it
And what you mean with RL conversation...No prob at all...i really would love to say this crap right in you face..really...that would be fun..because after that,i could pity you hahaha
..But hey when you want to apologize...Be my guest
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lol didnt see it in there hahaha
But still,it insnt the same ;)...
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No, indeed, it isn't.
"Stom" :
litt. : dumb in the meaning of mute (as in deaf-mute)
fig. : stupid
"Dom":
litt.: dumb in the meaning of stupid
Could be you were calling everyone mute here...
Re: Getting pawned by archers...
hahaha...i'm glad that you wear the funny trousers back home....
stom/ignorant....(what i meant with it was....that some and not everybody like you say....are not open minded when it comes to certain historical parts....they believe there own way of history of what they saw on history channel or learnt at school)....so what i mean is think further than that.
lol
Re: Getting pawned by archers...
Who gives a shit anyways? Someone close this already.
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ignorant/onwetend or short sighted/kortzichtig is not on your list with synonyms my dear friend.
Anyway, you were offending people, like Maion, behind their backs in Dutch. If you want to call them ignorant do so in English, and not in a language which you expect they won't understand.
And now, as TPC says, someone better locks this.
Re: Getting pawned by archers...
If he hasn't done that so far, I ain't half arab
anyways, Aurgelmir, when dealing in this subject, do not insult people in a different language, and cite a proper source, complete with page, author and assorted info. Also ,trolling and flaming people is ill mannered and against forum rules, as far as I can tell,
now, may a moderator close this thread? Its worryingly offensive
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Re: Getting pawned by archers...
:/If he hasn't done that so far, I ain't half arab
anyways, Aurgelmir, when dealing in this subject, do not insult people in a different language, and cite a proper source, complete with page, author and assorted info. Also ,trolling and flaming people is ill mannered and against forum rules, as far as I can tell,
now, may a moderator close this thread? Its worryingly offensive
1.didn't mean to insult poeple,i was only anoyed by the fact that people did not read my text well...and then giving complains
2.did put in a source ...again check my posts
3.indeed close this crap
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