Quote Originally Posted by SwissBarbar View Post
OOC: Ok, but what's the difference? If we have "military access, map info + a sum to be given for 12 turns (which is renewed after that possibly with a changed sum depending on the Epirites situation)" and they are our allies, they technically would be our Protectorate, we just don't call it so officially.

Forcing them to be a protectorate is not linked to a certain sum, they would have to pay, is it? You would have to specify yourself how much that is. Therefore wheres the difference between Protectorate and "Forced Ally, who must pay tribute, give us military access and map information" ?
OOC: The thing is that we don't get as much mnai (unless you guys really want to get ridiculous). It would be our protectorate, and we would see it as such, we just wouldn't use the in-game protectorate thing because that would give us ridiculous amounts of mnai.