OOC Thread and Chatroom

**navarro951** · 01-23-2009, 08:05

Originally Posted by SwissBarbar

Hehe, I'm a SOT freak, you know.

Another idea: I wanted to propose the thing about the Influence and the Curia when I would become Legatus, but feel free to propose it yourself, I'd second it.

Would be like this:

Every Avatar has 1 representative in the Curia. So he can debate, even when he's far away with the Legion. If one has 2 Influence-Points, he can have 2 Senatores in the Curia and one more per Point. So we not only roleplay, that the senate has more than 8 or 9 members *G* but also larger houses.

would get confusing keeping track. And really if someone represents you avatar, its really just your avatar in the sense that its you

. So not truly necessary.

**navarro951** · 01-23-2009, 03:35

The conflict began after both Rome and Carthage intervened in Messana, the point of Sicily closest to Rome.

In 288 BC the Mamertines -- a group of Italian (Campanian) mercenaries originally hired by Agathocles of Syracuse -- occupied the city of Messana (modern Messina) in the northeastern tip of Sicily, killing all the men and taking the women as their wives.[4] At the same time a group of Roman troops made up of Campanian "citizens without the vote" also seized control of Rhegium, which lies across the straits on the mainland of Italy. In 270 BC the Romans regained control of Rhegium and severely punished the survivors of the revolt. In Sicily the Mamertines ravaged the countryside and collided with the expanding regional empire of the independent city of Syracuse. Hiero II, tyrant of Syracuse, defeated the Mamertines near Mylae on the Longanus River.[5] Following the defeat at the river Longanus the Mamertines appealed to both Rome and Carthage for assistance, and acting first the Carthaginians approached Hiero to take no further action and convinced the Mamertines to accept a Carthaginian garrison in Messana. Either unhappy with the prospect of a Carthaginian garrison, or convinced that the recent alliance between Rome and Carthage against Pyrrhus reflected cordial relations between the two, the Mamertines petitioned Rome for an alliance, hoping for more reliable protection. However, the rivalry between Rome and Carthage had grown since the war with Pyrrhus; an alliance with both powers was simply no longer feasible.[6]

A considerable debate took place in Rome on the question of whether to accept the Mamertines' appeal for help, and thus likely enter into a war with Carthage. While the Romans did not wish to come to the aid of soldiers who had unjustly stolen a city from its rightful possessors, and although they were still recovering from the insurrection of Campanian troops at Rhegium in 271, many were also unwilling to see Carthaginian power in Sicily expand even further. Leaving the Carthaginians alone at Messana would give them a free hand to deal with Syracuse; after the Syracusans had been defeated, the Carthaginian takeover of Sicily would essentially be complete.[7] A deadlocked senate put the matter before the popular assembly, where it was decided to accept the Mamertines' request and Appius Claudius Caudex was appointed commander of a military expedition with orders to cross to Messana.

Its on any site you look at. This is wiki's.

**navarro951** · 01-23-2009, 03:37

Originally Posted by Mooks

Scipio eyes him back, unfaltering.

Or it would merely take a vote.

*Scipio takes his seat. Obviosly exhausted. His education ended years ago yet hes stuck in Rome, wasting his time because the senators wont send Rome's legions abroad. Why recruit them then? Shouldnt they be at home, farming their fields and making babies, then in the drilling fields? What kind of nation recruits armies then keeps them at home? Scipio decides to relax his throat, and start making friends and alliances to get his rank above a mere legatus. First he needs to get out of this city though.*

hmm a bit odd considering all but 1 legion is involved in a combat action right now. Legio III is just awaiting orders as every legio has done at least once.

**everyone** · 01-23-2009, 07:40

ok, who is the person who started the idea that Epeiros allied with Carthage? they're not. they're neutral.
bah.
and are we going to take mediolanum any time soon? because I'm still deciding what to do with S.P. Carbo, other than letting him scout around.

**The Celtic Viking** · 02-20-2009, 12:10

Originally Posted by Bean

All Senators rose upon his arrival

I think you should refrain from saying stuff like that (emphasis added). Actually, from what is said in the opening post in the Stories thread, I think it is strictly forbidden for you to do that, since it involves other people's avatars, and you must get permission from those in control of them to write anything about what their characters do or say. If you say something like "senators rose" then it's fine, because it doesn't automatically include everyone.

Originally Posted by Bean

Is Marcellus Tiberius? I get confused...

Yes, that's correct. He referred to my character by his last name (Regulus), and since I trust him to be a better authority on which name was generally used than I am (I really have no clue, except it's not the middle name), I did the same.

If anyone could just tell me which one it is I would gladly fall in line.

**/Bean\** · 02-20-2009, 12:14

I thought it was the law that you had to rise upon a Coronia Civica persons' entrance?

**SwissBarbar** · 02-20-2009, 12:16

Yes, in this special case. For the usual sessions in the curia I agree with TCV.

However, I have to remind you all for RP-Reasons in the curia not to confuse the word dictator in its actual meaning with the rank of dictator of ancient rome, which was a highly popular and respected rank, and nothing like a tyrant - at least not until 50 BC

**The Celtic Viking** · 02-20-2009, 12:27

If law = compliance with the law, there wouldn't be any criminals, would there?

But regardless of that, my objection was mainly meant for future references anyway.

**/Bean\** · 02-20-2009, 12:31

Haha touche

**mini** · 02-20-2009, 12:31

Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

In fact, the correct (polite) way to address someone are the first 2 names :)
eg: addressing me in the normal polite way would be Quintus Aemilius.

It was not since 1AD that using the last name became more of a habit. Calling someone by the last part (won't bother using the latin names for each part) was considered rude mostly. Even by 1BC it was still usually not done, only in the radical progressive circles.

The third part was usually only used when the subject was 3rd person, and confusion was possible.
example
marcus brutus and Gaius Tiddlypus are talking about Publius Cornelius.
Unfortunately, the subject is about a war in gaul, and there are 2 Publius Corneliusses active there.
Therefore we specify which one we're talking about with the 3rd part.

conclusion: as a rule, use the first 2 parts ;-) with few exceptions on random occassions (or simply when being rude)

I wish everyone would stick to this rule, as it's 1) RP-correct 2) polite and 3) less confusing.

Originally Posted by _Bean_

I thought it was the law that you had to rise upon a Coronia Civica persons' entrance?

This was actually a law introduced by Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix, after the Civil War during his dictatorship. On all public occassions, all men should stand and applaud the bearer of a coronia civica.
So everytime you walk into the senate, we rise and applause. Same thing on court occassions, comita sessions etc.

**/Bean\** · 02-20-2009, 12:34

I love history lessons. However, if your really friendly with someone (no, not like that

) would you just call them by their first first name?

And if your talking about yourself if the third person, what would you use?

**mini** · 02-20-2009, 12:40

Calling people by their first name was generally not done in the early republic.
Especially not in public.

Of course when in private, first names or nicknames could easily be applied.

But in public? Always the 2 parts
If you like history lessons
Quintus Aemilius Regillus
= Praenomen + Nomen + cognomen :)

Similar to our First name - Family name and nickname (though unlike now, the latter sometimes became hereditary)

Even when talking about yourself, you should apply praenomen+nomen. (unless ur talking to yourself in private. Even there I would use both, since it was standard behaviour to use both)

I know it is weird, because modern society only uses first names :)
But in the roman time, general practise was as above :)

**The Celtic Viking** · 02-20-2009, 12:41

Originally Posted by mini

In fact, the correct (polite) way to address someone are the first 2 names :)
eg: addressing me in the normal polite way would be Quintus Aemilius.

It was not since 1AD that using the last name became more of a habit. Calling someone by the last part (won't bother using the latin names for each part) was considered rude mostly. Even by 1BC it was still usually not done, only in the radical progressive circles.

The third part was usually only used when the subject was 3rd person, and confusion was possible.
example
marcus brutus and Gaius Tiddlypus are talking about Publius Cornelius.
Unfortunately, the subject is about a war in gaul, and there are 2 Publius Corneliusses active there.
Therefore we specify which one we're talking about with the 3rd part.

conclusion: as a rule, use the first 2 parts ;-) with few exceptions on random occassions (or simply when being rude)

I wish everyone would stick to this rule, as it's 1) RP-correct 2) polite and 3) less confusing.

Awesome! Thanks. I agree people should use it, but unfortunately, there are those ignorant of it (like I was just a few minutes ago), so it would require that it was put up as a reminder somewhere where especially new players would easily see it. Now that I know I will try to use it, though.