OOC Thread and Chatroom

[everyone]

darn, I almost forgot that S.C. Scapula (iskander II) and S.C. Sulla (cultured drizzt fan) are supposed to be Legati already; now that they have participated in two battles (actually they already participated in 3, the most recent being the assault on Tolosa)

[mini]

damn


bean, get me into some battles, dont want to be a tribune forever :p

[Iskander 3.1]

No promotion for you, Pleb!
:P

[Iskander 3.1]

Is there an age minimum to lead a legion? If not there should be, I'll consider proposing one with my new Legatus powers. It'll be something like...Legati under 30 years of age may not lead a legion but the general may order them to command part of an army to mop up after conquering a territory. In times of crisis a dictator may appoint a young Legatus to temporarily command a legion (think Scipio Africanus). I'll work on the wording and introduce this next session.

[SwissBarbar]

Why would you want that?

[mini]

some people like historical feelings :)

in that case, 30 would even be too young still ^^
Anywayz, this will probably be unnecessary if my reforms go through

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

Is there an age minimum to lead a legion? If not there should be, I'll consider proposing one with my new Legatus powers. It'll be something like...Legati under 30 years of age may not lead a legion but the general may order them to command part of an army to mop up after conquering a territory. In times of crisis a dictator may appoint a young Legatus to temporarily command a legion (think Scipio Africanus). I'll work on the wording and introduce this next session.

That sounds more like a charter ammendment to me - CA's last forever until changed
Edicts only last until the next congressional council (save for legion creation, or political/governing appointments - those last until the term specified is up)

[/Bean\]

Mini you'll be a Legatus after your term as TotP. How can I promote you when your Tribune of the Plebs? You've already served in enough battles

[Iskander 3.1]

It's historical, plus it can help if we have too many legates and not enough legions.

[/Bean\]

I demand I am promoted to Praetor!

[Iskander 3.1]

So is my promotion automatic?

[Iskander 3.1]

Ok, I'll draft a version of the amendment and then find someone to actually propose it since I can't. One of you will get a PM from me tonight...

[Iskander 3.1]

Sorry mini I missed your post...I'll still find someone to propose the CA just in case your reforms fail.

@swissbarber: My guy is sharp/uncharasmatic, as well as unselfish, so I'm sure he would want this to pass even if it limits what he can do right now.

[SwissBarbar]

the question was directed to you, why you should want that.. not your character. But I see your point

[/Bean\]

I dont really understand the privlages of being a Praetor. Since Quaestors can now create houses without Praetors, they don't gain any more voting or congressional rights, and our armies aren't that big anyway.

Is there any historical job we can give Praetors to make it a more commendable title?

[Iskander 3.1]

How about if we let them wear flowers in their hair!

[mini]

meh, what's the use of finding such thing after my reforms? :p

seeing as everyone seems to be of the opinion to vote for them, i am assuming there will be a system switch after next congress :)

[/Bean\]

Well first you need to find people willing to use their CA rights to propose them...whats your new rules say about Praetors then?

[mini]

meh, you have to interpret the system as a whole :)

since praetor will be an electable office, it's rather powerful :)


Best thing you can do to understand my reforms, would be copy pasting every rank from bottom to top and then try to sum every rank down to a few keywords


then you get a nice overview :)

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

Bean, give us a post in the battle reports thread so I can update the Phalerium - you conquering dog! Save some of the enemy for us!

[/Bean\]

Haha, there was only 80 of them, and a captain...I'm just waiting for the screenies to upload to Photobucket downstairs.

understandable, but anything which has to be discussed, should be put in the curia ;p

not obliged by the rules, but things like the spies thing etc, could be discussed.
I know the current rules don't need you too, but a little discussing can never do any harm :)

But I'm still in Epirus. I can't discuss them. And its hard to let a 'representative; do it.

EDIT: There we go TCM

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ok managed to drag myself away from my British campaign in ETW to look whats going on here.... who else feels like Cotta is starting to overshadow everyone else here? looks like we have the next caeser on our hands (and by that I mean someone who has gained huge power and popular support not a dictator, though it could go down that route if you wanted to bean )

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

He absolutely is getting too big for his britches. You should voice your concern in the Curia like a good Roman.

[everyone]

Moved the rest of the Legio III Campania north to join up with the Eq. Rom. and Rorarii
The legion, when these units are all together will have:

• 3 Generals
• 1 Equites Romani
• 2 Hastati
• 2 Principes
• 2 Triarii
• 1 Rorarii
• 1 Leves
• 1 Accensi

Is this correct?

it is. and be reminded that you can't add units to retraining. only CoL can, but I intend to add the principes to Arpi's retraining anyway.

and about the battle points and such, it doesn't fit much with how Rome governed itself, because the battle points system is based on WotB's which probably applies for hellenistic factions with a basileus in charge.
and seeing with everybody else proposing rule changes and such, I think I'll use Cicero's newly-attained ability to propose CA's to propose that RC's be allowed to be proposed in congressional sessions, unless they involve changing large parts of the rules.
mini's offices idea should really be implemented, it's much more fitting for a Rome-based game.

[SwissBarbar]

Good morning, members of BtSH, may the gods be with you *yawns*

I'm looking forward to the next session. On some interesting matters will be voted then

[/Bean\]

Mornin'.

Am I getting too big? It's only because I'm getting promoted quicker isn't it? Your all jealous...everyone's out to get me! I only see enemies everywhere!

Woop, I fit the requirements of a dictator already. But no seriously, I don't want to be dictator. Cotta is just ambitious and proud, because he has risen so quickly when he started life with nothing.

[mini]

mini's offices idea should really be implemented, it's much more fitting for a Rome-based game.

I hope so too :)

When is the next session anyway?
Since my new offices are heavily dependand upon the elected offices, we may want to look into more sessions. Otherwise the game might be dominated by the same men too long.
Since the elected persons have more power then the others, it might be wise to cut down turns between sessions from 12 to 8.

I'm also thinking about a law that will allow minor decisions to be voted straight in the curia (for example, the triumph of cotta, we should be able to decide such things outside session. Strictly speaking, this triumph is not a law, so it needs no congressional session)

[/Bean\]

256 IIRC

[everyone]

close, you're a year late, it's at the end of this IG year (257); which is the beginning of Winter; which in real-life equates to this Saturday.

[mini]

eek

got no inet in weekends. Gotta find a way to propose my shizzle :D