OOC Thread and Chatroom

[everyone]

the taking of massilia auto-win thing was decided by the edict, and Cicero is starting to think the debate in the curia is starting to become really retarded. so I'm making him furious and say something. (actually I meant to post this part after I RP some stuff between Cicero and Cotta, but baen/bean doesn't seem to be online. so I'll just skip that.

[SwissBarbar]

we need to change the rules, so we really have a republic, or the game here is not worthy of rome, if the dictator decides everything on his own. In that case we'd better change that faction

[everyone]

perhaps I'll propose a CA as soon as possible to change it to
"The senate, proposing an edict, shall decide where it is to move and whom to attack"

anyway I have to go to sleep now.

[SwissBarbar]

Yes, this would be great for several reasons, I write it down for you.

We must turn Rome into a Republic, because this is what it is. Its the senates job to discuss all important matters, not the dictators. Or we have a Roman Kingdom here.


Proposal

Dictator's will decide who commands it, where it is to move (if at all), and whom to attack.

CA X.1: The senate shall decide where it is to move an army and whom to attack, because[/B]

- Roma is a Republic, not a Kingdom, so the Senate and not the Dictator has to decide.

- Only when the Legions belong to Commanders (or Houses) we can RP civil wars, otherwise the dictator could just draw all legions back, which would end in a pretty one-sided civil war

- More funny debates about bits and pieces are granted.

Players may not move avatars or armies into the territory of a neutral or allied faction without the permission of the Dictator.
Nor may they attack the settlements or armies of neutral or allied factions without a declaration of war from the Dictator, either Consul’s, or an Edict.

CA X.2: Players may not move avatars or armies into the territory of a neutral or allied faction without the permission of the Senate.
Nor may they attack the settlements or armies of neutral or allied factions without a declaration of war from the Senate. [/B]

If a Standard or Imperial Legion falls below the minimum strength level, all military recruitment must be allocated to restoring the Legions to minimum strength before money can be spent on other recruitment, unless the Dictator agrees otherwise.

CA X.3: If a Standard or Imperial Legion falls below the minimum strength level, all military recruitment must be allocated to restoring the Legions to minimum strength before money can be spent on other recruitment, unless the Senate agrees otherwise.




These are the most important ones, but there are more. We should change most "Dictators rights" into "Senates rights". Due to the gameplay, maybe we leave the giving away of Provincial Dictatorships to the Dictator, with the addition, that the senate could veto and vote, if the player is not accepted.


We don't even need sessions for voting, because the senate should vote ALL THE TIME for every matter. That's his job

[/Bean\]

I'm finally home, so I'll play the battle now.

I was at school when I came online earlier.

[SwissBarbar]

Taking the save.

Baen, did you forget to write that you took the save?

[/Bean\]

No, TCV nicked it before I got there

[/Bean\]

Patavium is captured. Fun battle, that. My tribunes are very good fighters btw. Well done Aemilii!

[Mjolnir]

Sweet, did any of the cavalry command squads gain any experience?

[/Bean\]

I'm making the battle report now, I'll post the scrolls for you to see while I do the screenshots and write the full report and whatnot.

[Mjolnir]

Looking forward to reading about the battle I fought in.

[Mjolnir]

The legions will do fine taking the cities up north, hell,there's enough pila to be thrown at the unarmored barbaroi. I would like to submit that if we "auto-win", it be voted on in the senate. I hate auto-winning; myself; but see it as completely useful for RP. My main issue with it is 'will it become just a standard tool in our arsenal?" I hope the commander who "wins" that way gets no battle points as they really didn't fight a battle, did they?

I think they should get battle points for auto-winning because they are still taking the risk of their avatar dying. Perhaps subtract 1 from the battle points they would have gotten from actually fighting the battle.

[SwissBarbar]

Congratulations, Legatus ;-)

[/Bean\]

Cheers. Navarro, where do I stick my battle points?

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

I think they should get battle points for auto-winning because they are still taking the risk of their avatar dying. Perhaps subtract 1 from the battle points they would have gotten from actually fighting the battle.

There's no threat of losing your character. If the avatar dies, just reload the save and auto-resolve the battle again. It's not really cheating when you're cheating to begin with

I suppose you could RP something like in "Ben Hur" when the new governor of Jerusalem is thrown from his horse and killed when slate roof tiles fall to the ground and startle the horse; but who wants to die like that?

No battle points I say!

Edit: GJ Beaney!

[/Bean\]

We're only autowinning it because it's not meant to be a battle. It's meant to be a diplomatic mission, but because of the limits of the engine conquering the city is the only way of getting an alliance with a free city.

[Potocello]

hmmm what to do about Carthage? they are getting a little too close for comfort and their alliance with the Epeiros is disconscerting.

[/Bean\]

Bring it up in the Curia, I'd be happy to express my opinions.

EDIT: I'm going to have to compose future letters more carefully, haha

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

EDIT: I'm going to have to compose future letters more carefully, haha

Yes, yes you will. My goal is to destroy you!

Why? I don't know. I am probably jealous that you started the game before me and so therefore have a higher position in the legions and are one of the few characters to actually get to do anything.

Oh well, just hope we never get the ability to RP assassinations, because I'd take you out!

[Potocello]

hahah whoa now Tiberius, i didn't know you had such hostility towards Bean

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

hahah whoa now Tiberius, i didn't know you had such hostility towards Bean

It's all RP of course, I don't know the guy IRL and he seems to take it all in stride; but yeah, my character is a spoiled little prick who always wants his way and will make it hell for everyone until he gets it.

[Potocello]

funny, Tiberius

[Il_Duce]

It's all RP of course, I don't know the guy IRL and he seems to take it all in stride; but yeah, my character is a spoiled little prick who always wants his way and will make it hell for everyone until he gets it.

I'm going to be honest-- it's all fun and RPing and stuff, but RPing against fat prick that gets on everybody's nerves is not what I joined up for.

[/Bean\]

Agggggghhhhhhhhhhhh (No, its not an assassin...) I just accidently got rid of everything I wrote in the last half hour in my Battle Report...

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

I'm going to be honest-- it's all fun and RPing and stuff, but RPing against fat prick that gets on everybody's nerves is not what I joined up for.

Wow, that was strangely.....out of place. What gives with the OOC hostility? Maybe you need to hone your RP skills then? :-P

[Mjolnir]

Come on Il_Duce, do you really want an RPG where we all get along? :P

[/Bean\]

I'll finish the battle report tomorrow, I'm so knackered. I'm home before lunch tomorrow so I'll have plenty of time. See ya later y'all

[Il_Duce]

Wow, that was strangely.....out of place. What gives with the OOC hostility? Maybe you need to hone your RP skills then? :-P

No, it's just the fact that sometimes you take it too far. It's just not fun when somebody is RPing such a ridiculous character.

Also, was I moved from Legio II? I don't remember anything about it in the dictator reports.

[Potocello]

it is in his character traits and that's how Tiberius chooses to rp him. In all honesty i think this would be boring without such ridiculous characters...

[navarro951]

we need to change the rules, so we really have a republic, or the game here is not worthy of rome, if the dictator decides everything on his own. In that case we'd better change that faction

i am aware, and yes changes will be made

Yes, this would be great for several reasons, I write it down for you.

We must turn Rome into a Republic, because this is what it is. Its the senates job to discuss all important matters, not the dictators. Or we have a Roman Kingdom here.


Proposal



CA X.1: The senate shall decide where it is to move an army and whom to attack, because[/B]

- Roma is a Republic, not a Kingdom, so the Senate and not the Dictator has to decide.

- Only when the Legions belong to Commanders (or Houses) we can RP civil wars, otherwise the dictator could just draw all legions back, which would end in a pretty one-sided civil war

- More funny debates about bits and pieces are granted.





CA X.2: Players may not move avatars or armies into the territory of a neutral or allied faction without the permission of the Senate.
Nor may they attack the settlements or armies of neutral or allied factions without a declaration of war from the Senate. [/B]




CA X.3: If a Standard or Imperial Legion falls below the minimum strength level, all military recruitment must be allocated to restoring the Legions to minimum strength before money can be spent on other recruitment, unless the Senate agrees otherwise.




These are the most important ones, but there are more. We should change most "Dictators rights" into "Senates rights". Due to the gameplay, maybe we leave the giving away of Provincial Dictatorships to the Dictator, with the addition, that the senate could veto and vote, if the player is not accepted.


We don't even need sessions for voting, because the senate should vote ALL THE TIME for every matter. That's his job

I agree with everything cept for the senate deciding on recruitment and retraining, CoL does that and nothing will ever get done if everyone is bickering over what to recruit or to retrain for. I trust that whoever is CoL will get the job done to par. And the civil war legions thing will be handled as well. Youll like what ive got in store im sure.

But the idea of not voting in a session will never happen. It would be chaos if we missed a proposed edict or things were passed up. It is good to keep it organized for a proper time.

I think they should get battle points for auto-winning because they are still taking the risk of their avatar dying. Perhaps subtract 1 from the battle points they would have gotten from actually fighting the battle.

they will receive points. its an edict we voted on so it is agreed.

Cheers. Navarro, where do I stick my battle points?

all taken care of man!

hmmm what to do about Carthage? they are getting a little too close for comfort and their alliance with the Epeiros is disconscerting.

this is what the hell ive been trying to propose lol!

I'm going to be honest-- it's all fun and RPing and stuff, but RPing against fat prick that gets on everybody's nerves is not what I joined up for.

cmon Il_Duce easy now, everything in game is strictly for fun. if you have a serous problem with someone lemme know in a PM and we will try to resolve the issue.