OOC Thread and Chatroom

[navarro951]

learned I believe.

[/Bean\]

Cheers

[TinCow]

Granted, but that doesn't mean we cant be civilized about it. I mean we do play Romans...hehe

Actually, might be best not to use the old Roman ways...

[/Bean\]

Thats a picture of my school dinner hall at lunchtime, where did you get that?

Anyways, back on topic, can I take Ambrakia now, Mr Navarro sir?

EDIT: Agh, why would you log off now?

[mini]

nice picture of caesar, I love the drama at the on-seers

[The Celtic Viking]

Hey, I'm a keltophile and mini's a Roman fanboy... who did NOT see us clashing?

By the way, mini, as any zoologist will tell you (and they should know - they've studied me for years), this is classic TCV behaviour of reaching out. Lets put the past in the past and be friends now, eh?

Now, Navarro, I don't think you gave your ruling here...

I will, but Everyone needs to end the turn first. TCV has been on and has had a chance to aruge, but didnt. Iskander classifies as one of TCM's 'lowly Tribunes with no voting rights'...and no one else is on...

I haven't argued as the only "representative" I have in the Curia is a messenger, and he's not of high enough standing to actually argue, nor does he have the permission to speak for Pvblivs. However, in the case of a vote, Pvblivs would send in his decision through a message, so he's still active that way.

[/Bean\]

Well, theres no point calling a vote 2 turns before the congressional session, it wouldnt be done in time. I have had a large majority of the votes as affirmative though, so its other Senators' faults for not saying anything if they dont want me to do it.

No case for TCM...muhahahaha, Ambrakia falls tonight!...even though it can't cos I havent got any siege equipment...damn

[The Celtic Viking]

Well, AFAIK there is nothing in the rules that says you can't do that. However, without an edict (or a voting, if that's allowed - which I, by the way, think it should), the senate (which includes the consuls) are not obliged to support you. Meaning, we could refuse to retrain your losses, send reinforcements, or do anything to back you up at all.

Personally I think this is a rather lame disincentive to attacking a settlement without senatorial backing, but meh.

[/Bean\]

But you won't...right?

[navarro951]

Well, theres no point calling a vote 2 turns before the congressional session, it wouldnt be done in time. I have had a large majority of the votes as affirmative though, so its other Senators' faults for not saying anything if they dont want me to do it.

No case for TCM...muhahahaha, Ambrakia falls tonight!...even though it can't cos I havent got any siege equipment...damn

From what ive seen in the curia, there is more approval then disapproval. My call is go ahead. From my knowledge, and this of course cannot be said in the curia for realism sake, their are still 2 decent sized armies left in Epeiros. So, taking their capital will GREATLY hurt their economy to support such armies as well as produce more to put against us. Also it will do us good money wise. Were in a time of expansion now, and being recognized as so throughtout the game map, no more American pre-WW2 isolationism, we need to either put our foot down on all enemies or we will show weakness, even if the AI cannot think in that sense.

[mini]

By the way, mini, as any zoologist will tell you (and they should know - they've studied me for years), this is classic TCV behaviour of reaching out. Lets put the past in the past and be friends now, eh?

Now, Navarro, I don't think you gave your ruling here...

Wuh? We weren't friends to start with? :p

Meh, i'm used to worse (ruder) discussions than this, so wasn't anything out of the ordinary for me :D

[navarro951]

Well, AFAIK there is nothing in the rules that says you can't do that. However, without an edict (or a voting, if that's allowed), the senate (which includes the consuls) are not obliged to support you. Meaning, we could refuse to retrain your losses, send reinforcements, or do anything to back you up at all.

true, but it is ALSO in the rules that if a legion falls below minimum standing it MUST be retrained, not reinforced though true. The other option would be for "opposers" to ask for Cotta to be stripped of Legio II's command which is insane since he has won victory after victory since I commissioned that legion as dictator.

[/Bean\]

I take it that's a Yay rather than a Nay!

[navarro951]

ill be back in a sec...please allow me to eat this tasty sandwich in peace.

yes tis a nay.

[The Celtic Viking]

true, but it is ALSO in the rules that if a legion falls below minimum standing it MUST be retrained, not reinforced though true. The other option would be for "opposers" to ask for Cotta to be stripped of Legio II's command which is insane since he has won victory after victory since I commissioned that legion as dictator.

Actually, that rule makes an exception if the Consul of Legions agrees otherwise, so...

Wuh? We weren't friends to start with? :p

Last time I checked, Arverni starts out at war with the SPQR, and we hadn't signed a peace treaty.

[/Bean\]

Are you against taking Ambrakia then TCV?

[mini]

well in that case, i'm actually a descendant of the eburoni (one of the belgae ;p)

[The Celtic Viking]

I'm indifferent. Pvblivs, on the other hand, would rather have a peace offer proposed, and only taking it if it's refused.

Of course, you can't act upon this knowledge IC, since it was said here OOC.

[/Bean\]

What, now? I would agree to one after Epirus is taken, but allow them to rebuild their elites? No way.

[The Celtic Viking]

So when I refuse to join the discussion IC, you go for me OOC? Is there some way I can escape - without actually going AWOL?

Pvblivs doesn't share your expansionist views, and would rather not fight a two front war just because we can. He sees the enemy dead (Pyrrhos), and see no reason to continue the fight against the Epeirotes.

[/Bean\]

I am only interested in protecting our holdings easier. If we take Epirus, not only do we stop their elitist training, but we can cut off their routes into Roman lands. It's only logical.

[mini]

TCV, if u dont want a two front war: capture ambrakia, force rest of Epirus to accept peace. An alliance with makedon to keep an eye on epirus, and full focus to carthage.



everbody wins.

[/Bean\]

[mini]

how's that for support from ur son Bean ;p

[/Bean\]

I am not giving you Kudos everytime to support me...its not even IC

[mini]

pff, so much for fatherly love.


When I grow up, i'll be dressed in black, stabbing senators in a session and plea bad childhood in court.

[SwissBarbar]

Actually to me it also is only logical to take the capital city of the enemy, be their king dead or not. Especially after they gave Rome such a hard time like Pyrrhos did. Besides, as I said before in the Curia, and as it was said here, we would avert them from being able to recover and start a war again - f.e. by navigating over the Adriatic.

[The Celtic Viking]

You can argue all you want, but - and I know this will kill you, Swiss - it doesn't really matter what you say here because it's OOC. Even if you get me to agree with you, you won't get Pvblivs to do it without IC talk.

Of course, since Pvblivs is only the Consul of Finance, there isn't much he could do if you did take it without a vote. Moreover, I don't plan on re-entering politics (beyond voting) until the Congressional Session starts, and even what little I could possibly do wouldn't be done even if Pvblivs wanted to. Everyone would have to decide for himself to do that, since he's acting CoF while Pvblivs is out.

This is not just because I'm way too tired to talk politics, by the way.

[/Bean\]

Yay, a victory! He's too tired

[SwissBarbar]

You can argue all you want, but - and I know this will kill you, Swiss 1 - it doesn't really matter what you say here because it's OOC. Even if you get me to agree with you, you won't get Pvblivs to do it without IC talk.

Of course, since Pvblivs is only the Consul of Finance, there isn't much he could do if you did take it without a vote. Moreover, I don't plan on re-entering politics (beyond voting) until the Congressional Session starts, and even what little I could possibly do wouldn't be done even if Pvblivs wanted to. Everyone would have to decide for himself to do that, since he's acting CoF while Pvblivs is out.

This is not just because I'm way too tired to talk politics, by the way. 2

1 Indeed, I'm shocked

2 But also....?