OOC Thread and Chatroom

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I swear, it seems like every time I leave all the important stuff happens, I am on almost constantly and its only after I leave that the reforms get posted....

and by the way how long do you have to govern a city to get the CP's?

[/Bean\]

Added every turn I guess

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

As I read it, those are the CP's you get per Congressional session (12 turns)

And, seeing as how you can't govern two turns in a row, it will be a while for you to get enough.

[/Bean\]

Every 12 turns? No way, Mini. That's gotta change.

[The Celtic Viking]

It's per every 2 turns.

Governing
1CP per 2 turns for villages, towns, large towns
2CP per 2 turns for Cities, Large Cities
3CP per 2 turns for Huge Cities

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

That sounds much better to me, I'm going to re-read it to see where I missed the "2" turns part

[/Bean\]

Phew...panic attack over.

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

I read the Tribune of the Plebs part that states they only get their 18 CP's after their full term is over. I must have transposed that in my mind to be the way it was for all the ranks and governorships.

[navarro951]

You just want a balloon Iskander .

We can always do a trial session, and if the CP's are taking too long to get we can re-reform, since any ToP can propose them out of session now.

May I ask what ranks are going to who, as in converting from old ranks to new ranks?

I have my own way of dealing with this. Ill have to go through the whole games history and when I update the library you guys can see all your new promotions and what not...in the event a person would have to be demoted (i hope not) I will simply round a couple extra CPs up to put them where they should rightfully be. Anyway, in about two days you will see.

[/Bean\]

Time for legislation proposal has now ended. Voting will begin shortly in which there will be 48 hours time allotted to vote.

You always do that when I'm about to go to bed

[Potocello]

You always do that when I'm about to go to bed

Bed shmed who needs sleep anyway the CC is more important!!

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

I'm quite serious with the need for a new vote thread - this is scandalous!

[Tolg]

What's wrong? Why do we need a new thread just to comply with all formalities? I can understand why it's bothering you IC, but why should it matter from a OOC point of view?

[Mooks]

I demand Licentia Proletair get voted on this congressional voting session.

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

OOC, it's a problem for me because it's unsightly, it's nasty, it's lazy. There are so many missed votes that could occur - just look at how many edicts were missed being put into the poll! By re-doing it we will have a clear and concise record of everyone's votes as well as what each proposition stands for.

[SwissBarbar]

I demand Licentia Proletair get voted on this congressional voting session.

Formally your edict did not get enough seconds, but since you already have 4 members I propose we count them as "seconded" so you can have your house.

and...*humhum*.... in OOC we don't demand, we request ;-)

[/Bean\]

He can't have his house just because he has seconds. Thats what the vote is for.

I think we need to wait until the rank reforms are in place before we create houses.

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

I agree with Bean on that one - there are so many changes coming into effect that none of us or many of us may be eligible to create houses.

Also, I demand satisfaction! *ducks* (Just for Swiss I'll request satisfaction re: my vote initiative; but it better be good satisfaction)

[The Celtic Viking]

Formally your edict did not get enough seconds, but since you already have 4 members I propose we count them as "seconded" so you can have your house.

and...*humhum*.... in OOC we don't demand, we request ;-)

I disagree. Having 4 (or any number) who would be members of a house != having an edict seconded. Since they didn't do it, we can't just pretend they did, so the edict shouldn't even go to voting.

Edit: by the way, on the subject of creating a new voting thread I kind of agree.

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

for TCV for common sense re: voting thread

[Iskander 3.1]

With all due respect to Navarro, I agree about a new voting thread too.

(I'm always late for things that would get me balloons!)

[navarro951]

OOC, it's a problem for me because it's unsightly, it's nasty, it's lazy. There are so many missed votes that could occur - just look at how many edicts were missed being put into the poll! By re-doing it we will have a clear and concise record of everyone's votes as well as what each proposition stands for.

That is not something you will have to deal with. Thats my job to count the votes, not as a any character I will not miss one. And I am not going to let other edicts be allowed without seconds. 6.4 was allowed simply because I missed a seconding. That is all. I will count the votes same as always. And it does not matter, 6.4 appears unanimous anyway.

Formally your edict did not get enough seconds, but since you already have 4 members I propose we count them as "seconded" so you can have your house.

and...*humhum*.... in OOC we don't demand, we request ;-)

If it was not during the time of legislation proposal...its a no go. Rules are rules.

[The Celtic Viking]

With all due respect to Navarro, I agree about a new voting thread too.

(I'm always late for things that would get me balloons!)

Aww, you can have a cake for second place.

That is not something you will have to deal with. Thats my job to count the votes, not as a any character I will not miss one. And I am not going to let other edicts be allowed without seconds. 6.4 was allowed simply because I missed a seconding. That is all. I will count the votes same as always. And it does not matter, 6.4 appears unanimous anyway.

But edict 6.5 got two seconds (me and TCM), so it should've been up for voting, and the whole thing was just a mess. We mean no disrespect towards you when we say this, of course (hey, everyone makes mistakes... and the rest of us aren't innocent either ), it's just more proper that way. That's my 2 small ones.

[navarro951]

But edict 6.5 got two seconds (me and TCM), so it should've been up for voting, and the whole thing was just a mess. We mean no disrespect towards you when we say this, of course (hey, everyone makes mistakes... and the rest of us aren't innocent either ), it's just more proper that way. That's my 2 small ones.

Okay well i hope you understand if we revote today, It means another 2 days delaying. Not to mention edict 6.5 i sorta useless. Cotta is a praetor, and therefore, probably wont be running for anything anyway. I dont understand the point.

[desert]

What about 6.5?

Both TCV and TCM seconded it!

[The Celtic Viking]

If that's true even if we only vote on edict 6.5 (which logically should be the case - it doesn't take that much more time to check 7 squares to warrant such a change), and there's no way to just make it "2 days or until everyone have voted", then it's unavoidable IMO. A valid edict that has received enough seconds must be put up for voting, regardless of how useless it may be.

[navarro951]

If that's true even if we only vote on edict 6.5 (which logically should be the case - it doesn't take that much more time to check 7 squares to warrant such a change), and there's no way to just make it "2 days or until everyone have voted", then it's unavoidable IMO. A valid edict that has received enough seconds must be put up for voting.

I suppose indeed I cant argue with that...Voting Closed till i get the new one up.

[The Celtic Viking]

Thank you.

[navarro951]

New poll up friends, my apologies.

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

But edict 6.5 got two seconds (me and TCM), so it should've been up for voting, and the whole thing was just a mess. We mean no disrespect towards you when we say this, of course (hey, everyone makes mistakes... and the rest of us aren't innocent either ), it's just more proper that way. That's my 2 small ones.

Thank you very much to all who supported the new voting referendum, and to navarro951 for all the hard work involved. Despite my having said that it is 'unsightly, nasty, and lazy', please know that that was not a direct statement of what I think of you. It was my personal opinion as to how I would want others to view anything that I had done and why I wanted the new vote thread.

TCV: everyone does indeed make mistakes, in fact, in recalling certain events in my life I stopped and thought about an occasion where I believed I had made one. However, upon closer introspection, I realized that I had not made a mistake at that time, thereby making my very first mistake by assuming I had ever actually made one in the first place.