OOC Thread and Chatroom

[SwissBarbar]

move_character with romani FM really is a problem.

if you have a character named "Lvcivs Cornelivs Scipio Asina" you may move him with "Lvcivs Romanvs" ... but if there are more than 1 Fm called Lvcivs, only one can be moved. But actually we need only 1 FM to move the armies. We move the movabla Char to the army, transfer the units to his command and then move him back to italy with the cheat. I could do that, meanwhile I'm quite a master of changing the game (moving armies, giving cities (even capitals), creating untis etc.) for Roleplay-reasons with cheats and stuff

[everyone]

@ tolg:
probably, or one could temporarily give the host general a trait to boost their command and remove that trait once the move is done. the new general thing might not work because the general's name would probably be already used by another existing player-controlled character; so it needs a few tries.

@ mooks:
lol it's navarro's, there was initially a picture of a villa, but there was a car in the background so I removed the picture. then navarro placed the picture in his post. so I presumed he wanted it to be the house's picture, so I placed it there.

@ swissbarbar:
that's sort of what I meant.

[navarro951]

hmmm...how am I supposed to go around recruiting Pedites extraordinarii?

I may wish to call an emergency session to tie up some loose ends in the recent session's CA's, unless navarro confirms that it wouldn't be too much of a trouble if we vote on RCs out of session.

here are the proposed RCs for all to see whether is the change/emergency session/voting needed:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

RC1:
in the case of distances that would prevent the player from reaching their destination within 4 turns in-game after a congressional session, the "move_character" console command may be used to transport only the bodyguard (not army) of that player to his new appointment.

RC2:
in the case that specific units may not be recruited for a specific army due to distance or the lack of MICs, a substitute may be made (e.g. pedites replaced by triarii, or 2 hastati, etc); only upon confirmation with <somebody that requires confirmation with>

RC3:
the CoL may add units to whichever legions he please upon request of the legion's commander, but up to no more than 4 units. the units added shall remain with the legion until it is decommissioned on destroyed.

the 1st is to prevent something like LotR where you might spend the entire game (as one character did) marching around the campaign map to your destination.
the 2nd is because we can't recruit pedites extraordinarii as of now, and we can only recruit .
the 3rd is for Civil wars, like a house gets a member into the CoL position (similarly for the CoF which may build wherever and decide whether to build whatever he wishes). and don't worry about me being CoL, I'm not going to run for it for a long time. in fact, I wouldn't have ran for the position if I knew that Cicero would be sent to Sicily; because I already had plans in Tolosa; and having my name in all but one in the list of CoLs in the senate library is getting boring.

@ navarro: please reply to the most recent PM I sent you, thanks

ON RC 1 I suppose im okay voting with it simply in a poll.

RC 2 is I feel the same.

RC 3 is not neccesary. Civil wars will be fought by families and houses personal legions, thats already in the rules and is handled only by the GM. As i say in the rules, I will NEVER say no to helping an opposing family get ready for their war as long as their funds provide it.

[SwissBarbar]

due to those funds, can families recruit units as they want, in addition to their house legion? can they create more than one house legion?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

isnt it one legion per city? if a house has more than one city it can have more than one legion.

[navarro951]

due to those funds, can families recruit units as they want, in addition to their house legion? can they create more than one house legion?

It depends on the funds you have.

isnt it one legion per city? if a house has more than one city it can have more than one legion.

this also matters as well. its in the rules is you want to read a more exact sample.

[SwissBarbar]

4.6 House’ Legion/Families Legion

Civil war in Rome may be inevitable as senators are all vying for power here. So in order to not waste away the senate’s legions which the Republic needs to defend itself from foreign enemies, each house/family will be given a legion to call its own. <-- 1 Provincial Legions will be used strictly for defense while these personal legions can be used to defeat your political foes. <-- 2 All personal legions must be kept in a house/families provincial reign until they are involved in a civil war. No offensives on foreign enemies will be made unless it is requested, do not ask to have it put into combat.

In order to gain access to a legion such as this, you must gain cities. All Provincial Governings are granted to you by the Princeps/Senate. Once you have been granted one, you can use your house/families settlement to fund you personal legions. It works like so:

Each city grants a house/family an “invisible” amount of denarii’s. 1 city will give the house/family 1000 denarii’s a season. That’s 4000 denarii’s a year. During times of civil war, each city brings in 1500 a season. That’s 6000 a year. The amount of money a house/family has will be kept track of in a new thread called the Forum Trapezai. (The console cheat, add_money, will be used whenever the purchasing of units is done. So as far as the actual Republic goes, we will not gain nor lose any money as exact amounts per unit will be used. Ex: (Unit Costs: 1000, so only 1000 per one of those units will be added then immediately used.)

Each personal legion can be named however the house/family chooses. All units requested for recruitment will be dealt with by navarro951 through an IC pm so that no one has the power to say “no I won’t recruit them”. Navarro951 will not respond to the message, the recruitment will simply be carried out unless other business needs tending to.

Personal legions have a max of ten units. Each house/family may have 1 legion per city they own. The ten units can consist of any ten units they want.

1. Meaning 1 house = 1 legion
2. Meaning 1 house = more than 1 legion

Question: Am I right in assuming that the provincial legions of a houses provinces can be used in civil war, while the standard legions (like Legio II Latium) cannot be used, even if commanded by a member of a house? So there is ONE house-legion and SEVERAL personal legions of the several members of the house?

[navarro951]

1. Meaning 1 house = 1 legion
2. Meaning 1 house = more than 1 legion

Question: Am I right in assuming that the provincial legions of a houses provinces can be used in civil war, while the standard legions (like Legio II Latium) cannot be used, even if commanded by a member of a house? So there is ONE house-legion and SEVERAL personal legions of the several members of the house?

No their are several personal legions. Those are house legions/personal whatever you want to call them. The house decides which one of their members will command them. Provincial legions can be used in a civil war at your house/families own will. Standard legions are to be relinquished for the time being that its commander is involved in a civil war. The only time standard legions are used, is if one man gains the support of ALL, or the majority of, the legion commanders and takes over Rome to become dictator.

also: ill be taking the save at 1600 pacific due to work.

[/Bean\]

@ mooks:
lol it's navarro's, there was initially a picture of a villa, but there was a car in the background so I removed the picture. then navarro placed the picture in his post. so I presumed he wanted it to be the house's picture, so I placed it there.

Ehem, Mr Everyone? I think you will find that is my picture?

And move_character will work if we just stick Cicero or Blasio or Cotta in the army with move_character, move it, then detatch that character again and remove him back, just to clear things up.

[desert]

Can I make an anti-house house? And we'll be like, "All power to the Senate, not the houses!"

[navarro951]

Can I make an anti-house house? And we'll be like, "All power to the Senate, not the houses!"

wouldnt that entirely defeat the purpose..

[desert]

Fine, it wouldn't be a house but just an organization of like-minded senators. It wouldn't have any of the special priveleges or powers granted to houses.

Also, members of this group would want to enrich themselves through Rome's conquests.


Although on second thought...if a house rebels against the Senate, then its members are free to declare allegiance to either side, right?

[SwissBarbar]

Well, a house is not a contrary to the senate. It's just an organisation like a political party, which is a part of the governement.

That's like in America the Republicans would say "Hang the party, rule to the governement".


Makes no sense

[Iskander 3.1]

So I'm in charge of Legio I Apulia for the time being?

[navarro951]

So I'm in charge of Legio I Apulia for the time being?

Under whose orders?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

if by in charge you mean you have to keep the soldiers in line while we wait for an untold amount of time in Tolosa. then yes you are in charge.

[navarro951]

I would like to let you all know i need a bit to take the save as ill be taking all the new pics and updating the library. I dont want any drastic changes b4 i end the save.

[Iskander 3.1]

I just noticed it on Everyone's SOT post. Right now it's just a provincial legion, so I'd only be fighting if a rebel army appeared.

@Drizzt: It's a dirty job keeping them in line, but somebody's gotta do it!

[Potocello]

who's getting control of the Legio V?

STUPID HISTORY PAPER!!! I may shoot myself if this work keeps up Although my paper is on the Roman Republic so i guess it's not all bad

[navarro951]

I just noticed it on Everyone's SOT post. Right now it's just a provincial legion, so I'd only be fighting if a rebel army appeared.

@Drizzt: It's a dirty job keeping them in line, but somebody's gotta do it!

Ah i see, well it is not really his call to make it a "prov.legion", he needs to recruit his own. Meaning he needs to decide if he will go infantry, cavalry, ranged, or mixed. I need to decide as well. It remains a Standard legion and yes you are in charge for now, as Legio I Roma is now his command.

ALSO, LET IT BE KNOWN AFTER I END THIS TURN, THE NEXT TURN WILL BE A 48 HOUR TURN, I WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE ENTIRE GAME HISTORY TO REWRITE RULES AS WELL AS DECIDE WHAT EACH PLAYERS CP POINTS WILL NOW BE AT. MY APOLOGIES BUT I THINK IN THE END IT WILL MAKE FOR A BETTER GAME!

[Potocello]

it will navarro, it will

[navarro951]

who's getting control of the Legio V?

STUPID HISTORY PAPER!!! I may shoot myself if this work keeps up Although my paper is on the Roman Republic so i guess it's not all bad

That is to be decided by seniority, as GM, it is my job to find that out, ill get back to you guys; most likely there will be a vote on it. I know Legio II should definitely got to Avlvs Mamercvs, Legio I and Legio V im not sure though.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I for one can assure you Sextvs will fight tooth and nail for command of Legio I if it comes down between Iskander and I, as we both joined about the same time there is no real seniority. plus he is stilled pissed at the whole wife thing.
so that fight or you can bring in another Legatvs from a diffrent legion, Sextvs will roll with that.

[Potocello]

okay well based on seniority, Drizzt and Sextvs shouldn't get it seeing as we still have Mooks and TCM who have been here for a looong time and have been Legatii for quite some time too. I think it would be only fair if we put the most senior players in command before we let the newer ones command.

sorry Drzzt and Iskander(???)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

thats cool, I was leaning towards that anyway, seemed like the only way to avoid conflict.

[Iskander 3.1]

That's ok Potocello, I don't mind. I figured it would just be a temporary command. Sextus and Sextus are still acting like friends for now but sooner or later thing'll heat up.

@Drizzt: what's your character's wife's name?

[Potocello]

@Drizzt: what's your character's wife's name?

Ha ha ha, oh no

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

her name is Dionysia (even looks like a cheater, I mean so close to Dionysus, god of drunken revelry)

[Potocello]

Nice battle story Swiss. Those screenshots are rather reminiscent of your superb AAR.

[navarro951]

I will be totally inactive 2morrow as I will be swearing into the military.