Not by a hair of my chiny chin chin....

[Fragony]

Ah, news from England?

[Louis VI the Fat]

Reform Treaty - Protocol (No 7) [that is, the Lisbon Treaty and its follow-ups.]

The Treaty will provide countries with the option to opt out of certain EU policies in the area of police and criminal law:

The "Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union" by the European Court of Justice is not to apply fully to the United Kingdom and Poland, although it would still bind the EU institutions and apply to the field of EU law:

“ Article 1

1. The Charter does not extend the ability of the Court of Justice of the European Union, or any court or tribunal of Poland or of the United Kingdom, to find that the laws, regulations or administrative provisions, practices or action of Poland or of the United Kingdom are inconsistent with the fundamental rights, freedoms and principles that it reaffirms.
2. In particular, and for the avoidance of doubt, nothing in Title IV of the Charter creates justiciable rights applicable to Poland or the United Kingdom except in so far as Poland or the United Kingdom has provided for such rights in its national law.

Article 2

To the extent that a provision of the Charter refers to national laws and practices, it shall only apply to Poland or the United Kingdom to the extent that the rights or principles that it contains are recognised in the law or practices of Poland or of the United Kingdom. ”

This is what, against bitter protest from other European nations, Poland and the UK negotiated for themselves a few years ago.

Rest assured though, ye opressed peoples of Europe, that whatever your governments may concoct, my revolutionary mind shall not rest until freedom, justice and human rights are spread form the Atlantic to the Ural.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Isn't it good to know that the recently paroled have a career field open to them that utilizes their unique talents? Nobody expects a Repo-man's Inquisition

[rory_20_uk]

Supposedly left leaning governments are far more able to strip away any rights they feel like as it is not what they are associated with. imagine the Tories doing this...

IF entry is required, the police should be the only persons doing so - as a law from 1604 stated. The police should then be paid for their time to undertake this.

In essence the job of repo men should be undertaken by the police as a magistrate sanctioned event, not by the types that go into the industry.

[CountArach]

Supposedly left leaning governments are far more able to strip away any rights they feel like as it is not what they are associated with. imagine the Tories doing this...

Les... sigh...

Labour is not left...

[rory_20_uk]

Les... sigh...

Labour is not left...

Of the three parties it is the one perceived to be left wing, even if its actions are right wing. Its core voters will vote for it regardless of what it does, as the other option is the Tories (boo, hiss)

[Fragony]

Les... sigh...

Labour is not left...

Yes they are, they just can't afford it anymore, it's like a snake that eats it's own tail, getting pretty top-heavy over there with our british complete idiots friends.

[naut]

I'm glad I'm out of there. Revolution is needed I say.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Yes they are, they just can't afford it anymore, it's like a snake that eats it's own tail, getting pretty top-heavy over there with our british complete idiots friends.

Fragony, I can understand that your comforting world view (Everything bad = the left) demands the above belief, but no-one else has considered New Labour to be remotely socialist for years. What party of the left considers, in all seriousness, charging the very poorest over 27% interest on social emergency loans? Even Mrs Thatcher, who reformed the easy money society, didn't plan to gouge people like that. (If one believed New Labour had any chance of joined up thinking, one could easily accept that this plan was to neatly increase business for their new friends, the bailiffs).

Much more interesting than generalised left bashing is discovering the answer to a question I find raised each time InsaneApache rightly posts about his iniquitous government: to wit, what are you doing about this? Specifically, as a member (I think) of the Tory party, are you lobbying to make sure an incoming conservative government over-turns all this awful legislation? Because I don't see them making the same song and dance of outrage.

Since no parliament can bind its successor, a program of over-turning all the years of pernicious legislation should be rather straightforward and easy to plan in Opposition. Where are those plans? Each time this stuff is proposed, one should hear a promise that 'twill last no more than GB's career.

Don't you think?