Not by a hair of my chiny chin chin....

[Hosakawa Tito]

Isn't it good to know that the recently paroled have a career field open to them that utilizes their unique talents? Nobody expects a Repo-man's Inquisition

[rory_20_uk]

Supposedly left leaning governments are far more able to strip away any rights they feel like as it is not what they are associated with. imagine the Tories doing this...

IF entry is required, the police should be the only persons doing so - as a law from 1604 stated. The police should then be paid for their time to undertake this.

In essence the job of repo men should be undertaken by the police as a magistrate sanctioned event, not by the types that go into the industry.

[CountArach]

Supposedly left leaning governments are far more able to strip away any rights they feel like as it is not what they are associated with. imagine the Tories doing this...

Les... sigh...

Labour is not left...

[rory_20_uk]

Les... sigh...

Labour is not left...

Of the three parties it is the one perceived to be left wing, even if its actions are right wing. Its core voters will vote for it regardless of what it does, as the other option is the Tories (boo, hiss)

[Fragony]

Les... sigh...

Labour is not left...

Yes they are, they just can't afford it anymore, it's like a snake that eats it's own tail, getting pretty top-heavy over there with our british complete idiots friends.

[naut]

I'm glad I'm out of there. Revolution is needed I say.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Yes they are, they just can't afford it anymore, it's like a snake that eats it's own tail, getting pretty top-heavy over there with our british complete idiots friends.

Fragony, I can understand that your comforting world view (Everything bad = the left) demands the above belief, but no-one else has considered New Labour to be remotely socialist for years. What party of the left considers, in all seriousness, charging the very poorest over 27% interest on social emergency loans? Even Mrs Thatcher, who reformed the easy money society, didn't plan to gouge people like that. (If one believed New Labour had any chance of joined up thinking, one could easily accept that this plan was to neatly increase business for their new friends, the bailiffs).

Much more interesting than generalised left bashing is discovering the answer to a question I find raised each time InsaneApache rightly posts about his iniquitous government: to wit, what are you doing about this? Specifically, as a member (I think) of the Tory party, are you lobbying to make sure an incoming conservative government over-turns all this awful legislation? Because I don't see them making the same song and dance of outrage.

Since no parliament can bind its successor, a program of over-turning all the years of pernicious legislation should be rather straightforward and easy to plan in Opposition. Where are those plans? Each time this stuff is proposed, one should hear a promise that 'twill last no more than GB's career.

Don't you think?

[Fragony]

Keep that in mind when I send you a bill

[Husar]

Since no parliament can bind its successor, a program of over-turning all the years of pernicious legislation should be rather straightforward and easy to plan in Opposition. Where are those plans? Each time this stuff is proposed, one should hear a promise that 'twill last no more than GB's career.

Don't you think?

This is one of the things that made me lose faith in politics so I now think you just choose the lesser evil.

[Gregoshi]

Talk about an open door policy gone horribly wrong.

[Mangudai]

Fragony, I can understand that your comforting world view (Everything bad = the left) demands the above belief, but no-one else has considered New Labour to be remotely socialist for years. What party of the left considers, in all seriousness, charging the very poorest over 27% interest on social emergency loans? Even Mrs Thatcher, who reformed the easy money society, didn't plan to gouge people like that. (If one believed New Labour had any chance of joined up thinking, one could easily accept that this plan was to neatly increase business for their new friends, the bailiffs).

Socialism is not really about helping the poor. It's about increasing the power of the state.

Want proof? Count the threads on this forum. I have yet to find one encouraging org members to give to charity. I found a few dozen in no time where org members supported repressive government policies.

[CountArach]

Socialism is not really about helping the poor. It's about increasing the power of the state.

Want proof? Count the threads on this forum. I have yet to find one encouraging org members to give to charity. I found a few dozen in no time where org members supported repressive government policies.

Look at the number of threads where people talk about social welfare, not to mention healthcare - the majority of people favour increased social spending, only the vocal minority here don't support it. The number of threads asking people to donate to charity is not a valid representation of the leanings of the forum and I don't know how you could possibly think it is a good judge.

Socialist, maybe not. But are they on the left? Yes. At least the centre-left.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Fragony, I can understand that your comforting world view (Everything bad = the left) demands the above belief, but no-one else has considered New Labour to be remotely socialist for years. What party of the left considers, in all seriousness, charging the very poorest over 27% interest on social emergency loans? Even Mrs Thatcher, who reformed the easy money society, didn't plan to gouge people like that. (If one believed New Labour had any chance of joined up thinking, one could easily accept that this plan was to neatly increase business for their new friends, the bailiffs).

Socialist, maybe not. But are they on the left? Yes. At least the centre-left.