It occurs to me Mangu's sounding a whole lot like he wants to have all those nice services a modern state brings - law and order, infrastructure, communal defense, all kinds of little things that improve everybody's quality of life etc. - without having to pay his part of the bill for it...

You freeloader, you.

Quote Originally Posted by Mangudai
In the US we have a program called social security which falls clearly in the latter catagory. Every year about 30 days worth of my wages are siphoned off into this ponzi scheme.
And I hope you realize that what passes for social security in the US is regarded as a really bad joke over here, where that thing actually works and does its job...?